I say Baylor is worse. It's a bad year all around for the Big 12.
Game Thoughts Oklahoma State
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By all accounts, Lee was a good kid. I don't think he was a cancer at all. He just did something dumb that will definitely cost him. That's more than enough punishment without us calling out his character. As far as on the field, having him in the rotation would be a big help.
Brock was clearly our best RB and we miss him a ton. I think that you could make the argument that we'd be 4-0 if he were playing. Not a certainty, but likely.
Remsburg would help solidify our OL and hopefully will in a few games. We're going to be glad to have him back.
Dekkers I don't know if it isn't addition by subtraction at this point. But if Rocco got hurt, we're going to wish he was an option.
Lee bet against his own team. He said **** you to his teammates. His character has been called out by his own actions.
Absolutely correct. By no means, he should not have slid or dived. I was showing the difference of ball placement between these two actions. He probably could have run another 4-5 yards.
And OSU beat ASU who hung around with USC.
I guess football's just a funny game week to week right?
We've played 4 games without Remsburg with atrocious run blocking and we have 2 more without him. I don't think he is normally a difference maker, but if he replaced the worst of this line in those games I think he could have made some difference.
Yeah, I miss him.
I don't know if there has been a statement from Lee, so this is 100% pure speculation, but I personally have fat fingered a bet and placed a wager in the opposite direction of my intention before. I'm not saying this is what happened, but it is possible.
well considering Nevada lost to Idaho 33-6, I'm not sure about that assessment. Kansas played a late night road game and didn't play the best, but they still won.
I understand we lost to Ohio, but Ohio is probably going to win the MAC. Nevada might finish last in the MW
To give a little context to this, here is the most blatant instance from this game.
- Halfway through the second quarter.
- Ball is at far hash closest to the OSU bench on the ISU 42.
- They are showing the replay but after the replay you can see the ISU guys who are subbing out reach the sideline at about 25 seconds on the playclock.
- After that they immediately switch to a shot of Rocco talking to guys who subbed in about what the play was so they are clearly not dogging onto the field.
- The first shot of the OSU defense is at about 15 seconds. The D lineman has just started dogging on to the field (started at maybe 16 seconds).
- D lineman reaches NG position at about 11 seconds
- Replaced D lineman starts dogging off the field at 10 seconds
- Reaches sideline by about 5 seconds.
- Ball available for snap at 4 seconds.
- ISU snaps ball at 3 seconds.
Rules committee needs to do something about this, even if it is just a point of emphasis. In addition to the possibility of penalties and wasted timeouts due to this gamesmanship, there is the lost opportunity of motion to see what the defense is doing and the ability to change the play. ISU was forced to just run what they had called because they had no time even though they were ready to play around 18-20 seconds on the play clock.
Luckily it worked out and Eli rushed for 16 yards around the right edge. But I have seen ISU have to call a timeout because of this tactic by Gundy on more than one occasion.
Every week is different, that's what makes football so fun to watch. KU played terrible against Nevada and will lose to everyone left on their schedule if they play like that again. BYU's QB is crazy accurate if he has time and made some great throws against KU and Arkansas. I think they can surprise some teams in the conference. I really think UT is in a class by themselves, but they always seem to blow it, so who knows.
Kinda what I thought watching the replay. Sliding so early was still not good, but better than going OB. It didn't look like there was enough room to get the first unless he was straight-up trucking a defender already coming full speed at him.
Do think you still have to cut back inside and finish the run there, but it was very likely to be 3rd down regardless.
It looks to me like the only thing they're really missing from being an average OSU team is a QB. They've got zero QBs on roster that live up to Gundy's typical expectations. Problem is Gundy's system heavily depends on having very talented QB play to enable the rest of the skill players around him. Game-managing doesn't work well with his offensive style.
That would have taken a TO we may later need for a 4th and inches where we lineup and make no attempt to draw the defense offsides and/or a kickoff. Can't have that.
This has been hashed over a ton. Everyone has their own opinion. Mine is that it depends on how much he bet. If he bet $500 on the opponent ML, that's one thing. If he bet $5, that's another. I bet against ISU all the time. The old "emotional hedge". Just last weekend, I bet OSU ML and was happy to lose my money. If all Lee did was bet $5-10 thinking "well, if we lose, at least I got a few extra bucks to make me feel better", I'm not going to call the kid a cancer for that. He's been punished enough.
Really wish the coaches would be better at using timeouts, especially in the first half. The FG attempt against Iowa that was blocked, they said they saw something funky before the snap, but didn't call a TO. As good as Heacock is, he should have instantly seen Bacon on the island and called the TO.
Honestly they shouldn't have to call a TO because it was the refs doing. It should have been an officials timeout.
I agree on everything except Lee. Any player who is willing to bet AGAINST his own team is a potential problem. That’s not a stupid mistake. Dekkers def is not a loss from a team leadership point of view.
