Hilton to Host WBB 2012 Opening Rounds

[sodakjoe]

http://www.cyclones.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=205019166

With Des Moines hosting the regional as well.

HUGE opportunity here if our team can take advantage.

 

[cmoore_23]

wow that's huge!!

 

[mred]

With Bolte being the only 10-11 senior, we might have a really good team in 11-12. This is a great opportunity.

 

[CycoCyclone]

big time!

 

[MNCyGuy]

They wouldn't put the Hilton teams in the Des Moines region though, would they? I'd take it if they did, but that just seems like a crazy unfair advantage just for the sake of spiking attendance, even for WBB.

 

[sodakjoe]

With Bolte being the only 10-11 senior, we might have a really good team in 11-12. This is a great opportunity.

Hopefully one of our youngsters can step up at PG, and we could be a scary looking team in a couple years.

 

[mhalb]

This is great news. We can really take advantage of having the first-elite eight in Iowa. Our fan base helps the gals, so I see 2012 being our biggest chance of advancing deep into tournament. Wouldn't it be great to see us at least make it to the elite eight, then hopefully a final four. Great motivation for the 2012 tournament. Now let's have a good season this year to prepare.

 

[Tornado man]

I guess I'm tired of Wells Fargo Arena getting the plum events over Hilton. In looking at the other sites for 2012, I see that Kingston, RI has a regional. That's a town much smaller than Ames, in the middle of nowhere, and with an arena that seats 7,700. All these reasons I keep hearing for why Ames can't host a regional would seem to apply to Kingston five times over.
Also, I see that UNI is the host university at WFA. ????

NCAA Selects Division I First And Second-Recond, Regional Sites For 2012 - NCAA.com ? The Official Website of NCAA Championships

 

[MNCyGuy]

I guess I'm tired of Wells Fargo Arena geting the plum events over Hilton. In looking at the other sites for 2012, I see that Kingston, RI has a regional. That's a town much smaller than Ames, in the middle of nowhere, and with an arena that seats 7,700. All these reasons I keep hearing for why Ames can't host a regional would seem to apply to Kingston five times over.
Also, I see that UNI is the host university at WFA. ????

NCAA Selects Division I First And Second-Recond, Regional Sites For 2012 - NCAA.com ? The Official Website of NCAA Championships

Would you rather have Hilton host an opening rounds AND WFA get a regional, or just have Hilton host a regional?

I'm assuming UNI is the regional host because the same school can't host both.

 

[mred]

They wouldn't put the Hilton teams in the Des Moines region though, would they? I'd take it if they did, but that just seems like a crazy unfair advantage just for the sake of spiking attendance, even for WBB.

They probably would. You can't play at home in regional tournaments, but I believe the rule only takes into account venues where you played home games that season. We lost to Stanford in the 2009 tournament in Berkeley (40 miles from Stanford). That same season, Oklahoma made the Final Four with the help of a regional in OKC (20 miles from Norman).

 

[IcSyU]

I guess I'm tired of Wells Fargo Arena getting the plum events over Hilton. In looking at the other sites for 2012, I see that Kingston, RI has a regional. That's a town much smaller than Ames, in the middle of nowhere, and with an arena that seats 7,700. All these reasons I keep hearing for why Ames can't host a regional would seem to apply to Kingston five times over.
Also, I see that UNI is the host university at WFA. ????

NCAA Selects Division I First And Second-Recond, Regional Sites For 2012 - NCAA.com ? The Official Website of NCAA Championships

I don't think Iowa State can host both.

 

[mred]

I guess I'm tired of Wells Fargo Arena getting the plum events over Hilton.

If Hilton hosted the regional, rules dictate that ISU can NOT be placed in that region.

 

[MNCyGuy]

They probably would. You can't play at home in regional tournaments, but I believe the rule only takes into account venues where you played home games that season. We lost to Stanford in the 2009 tournament in Berkeley (40 miles from Stanford). That same season, Oklahoma made the Final Four with the help of a regional in OKC (20 miles from Norman).

I wonder if that's the other reason for UNI being the official regional host and also why ISU would never WANT Hilton to host a regional over Wells Fargo. It is nice to have at least one sport that gets the strings pulled for it.

 

[mred]

This is great news. We can really take advantage of having the first-elite eight in Iowa.

Actually Hilton was the regional host back in 2002. This was back when the top four seeds in each region hosted and you could play regionals at home. We had a chance to win four straight at home to make the Final Four, but we were upset by BYU in the second round.

 

[Tornado man]

Would you rather have Hilton host an opening rounds AND WFA get a regional, or just have Hilton host a regional?

I'm assuming UNI is the regional host because the same school can't host both.

Yes, I'd like Hilton to host a regional. Other campuses get awarded them, many with much smaller arenas than Hilton.
I've been to Kingston - it's a town of about 7,000 people. Regarding lodging, I guarantee that teams - officials - media will have to stay in Newport - 15-20 miles away.
Ames has much more to offer teams than Kingston, RI, I assure you.

 

[mred]

Here are some specific rules:

National Collegiate Athletic Association

(page 11)

Frequency of Serving as Host.
If all factors are equal, consideration may be given to a host institution/conference or competition venue that has not hosted the tournament most recently. An institution is precluded from hosting a specific round of the championship for more than two consecutive years (e.g., Host Institution A can host first- and second rounds in 2010 and 2011. They are ineligible to host first- and second-round in 2012 but, are eligible to host a regional in 2012), unless there are circumstances that require the Division I Women’s Basketball Committee to award a site for more than two consecutive years.

Hosting/Participating Team/Assigned Regional Site Policy.
For the regional competition, a team may not be assigned to play in any competition venue in which it has played more than three regular-season games, not including conference post-season tournaments nor may a host institution’s team be permitted to play at the site where the institution is hosting. However, the team may play on the same days when the institution is hosting.A host institution will be provided the opportunity to defer its hosting responsibilities to another entity no later than 12 months in advance of the scheduled championship event. It is the responsibility of the host institution to initiate the deferment process and the process must be initiated and completed prior to the 12 month window.

Hosting/Participating Team/Assigned First- and Second-Round Site Policy.
If a team’s institution is serving as a first- and second-round host, the team will be assigned to the institution’s site.

So if the regional were at Hilton or if we hosted the regional at WFA, we would not be allowed to play in that region.

 

[MNCyGuy]

Yes, I'd like Hilton to host a regional. Other campuses get awarded them, many with much smaller arenas than Hilton.
I've been to Kingston - it's a town of about 7,000 people. Regarding lodging, I guarantee that teams - officials - media will have to stay in Newport - 15-20 miles away.
Ames has much more to offer teams than Kingston, RI, I assure you.

Not debating that fact at all. But you can't deny that this set-up, while maybe a bit less prestigious for ISU, is a much bigger competitive advantage.

Also, not to bag on WBB, because I have been a big ISU WBB supporter since I was a student, but would you really bother to buy a ticket to a regional ISU wasn't allowed to play in? No, you'd rather have the midwest regional close by to encourage our fans to travel. It doesn't look like any of the "powers" are hosting regionals on their homecourts. Why? For the same reasons having it in Des Moines instead of Ames is advantageous to ISU.

 

[alarson]

While a regional in ames might be cool, having the first 4 rounds be pretty much at home is much better. WFA will be packed if ISU makes it there.

 

[sodakjoe]

Rhode Island has a regional for one reason: The University of Connecticut.

 

[mred]

Here are some specific rules:

National Collegiate Athletic Association

Some other interesting things in the document:

Sports Wagering. No session of the Division I Women’s Basketball Championship may be conducted in a state with legal wagering that is based on single-game betting on the outcome of any event (i.e., high school, college or professional) in a sport in which the NCAA conducts a championship.

Regular Season Game. During the regular season, prior to the tournament, the competition venue must host a minimum of one college or professional basketball game. This game may involve the host institution’s men’s team, women’s team or may involve the men’s or women’s teams of another institution. The game must take place prior to February 1.

Seating Capacity. The competition venue must have a minimum seating capacity of 5,000.

Prices

The following ticket prices are applicable for the 2012 preliminary round competition. Ticket prices for a particular seat location shall not vary from session to session at a site. Proposed prices must be submitted to the NCAA on the host’s proposed budget and may not be changed unless approved in advance by the NCAA.

FIRST AND SECOND ROUNDS:

All Session​

Maximum​

Minimum​

Adult

$70​

$25​

Student/Children

$55​

$15​

Single Session​

Adult

$30​

$15​

Student/Children

$25​

$10​

REGIONALS:

All Session​

Maximum​

Minimum​

Adult

$70​

$35​

Student/Children

$55​

$20​

Single Session​

Adult

$40​

$20​

Student/Children

$30​

$12​