How replay helped KU today

[Dolokaju]

KU didn't get any reversals this year(unlike 2005 with that bogus TD when they reversed the call on the field when there was not a single view of the ball over the goal line) but they benefited when replay was used.

1) After the Reesing fumble. ISU was at the line and I'm sure going to throw it deep. Instead the officials wait till the team is at the line then blow the whistle throwing a wrench into any momentum that was regained. Arnaud throws a terrible pick a few plays later...though, that wasn't a direct result of the review.

2) After the onside kick...a good 2 minutes go by and they blow the stinking whistle as ISU is ready to snap the ball. Arnaud was ticked. ISU had just scored and got the onside kick. Instead the refs give KUs defense time to recover. They had to know they were going to stop it to look at it so why not do it right after the play.

ISU just plain blew the game but I'm starting to get sick of instant replay when they wait till the last second on fairly obvious plays....and the funny thing is they are supposed to see an angle or two right after the play yet they take 5 minutes on the Reesing fumble that we at home knew was a fumble for sure 30 seconds later.

 

[Cyclone62]

1. Worst thread ever.

2. Dumbest idea(s) ever.

 

[ISUAlum2002]

His points are somewhat valid. The replay stoppages certainly didn't help any momentum we were trying to gather, and they were all fairly obvious calls.

 

[JHudd]

1. Worst thread ever.

2. Dumbest idea(s) ever.

I wouldn't quite be that harsh but I still think Inspector Gadget would have a hard time reaching for it.

 

[chuckd4735]

Very valid points!

 

[Rogue52]

The timing of those replays annoyed you too? Glad I'm not the only one.

 

[kingcy]

What???

 

[Cyclone62]

His points are somewhat valid. The replay stoppages certainly didn't help any momentum we were trying to gather, and they were all fairly obvious calls.

They didn't help any momentum at all. However, this entire thread is a way of saying the stoppages were intentional from the refs. That isn't true.

 

[tigershoops31]

That onside replay was ******** because they had the ball set 11 yards from where it was kicked. Refs have a big time ego and if they did reverse it that would mean admitting that they f-ed it up by a full yard in real time, and we all know that wasn't going to happen (the admitting part anyway)...

 

[SeattleClone]

I think it was like the Buffalo Wild Wings commercials- the ref went into the replay booth, and had a line of communication with the NCAA. The NCAA told the refs to do whatever it takes to take momentum away from lowly ISU.

 

[Clonehomer]

That onside replay was ******** because they had the ball set 11 yards from where it was kicked. Refs have a big time ego and if they did reverse it that would mean admitting that they f-ed it up by a full yard in real time, and we all know that wasn't going to happen (the admitting part anyway)...

The 41 yard line was where Johnson landed. He caught the ball right on the 40. If he had caught it on the 39 and landed on the 41 they still would have spotted the ball there but it would have been an illegal proceedure.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I would rather see them go to the booth right away, but both plays were somewhat close, so I do think they should have been reviewed.

 

[HiltonMagic]

I would rather see them go to the booth right away, but both plays were somewhat close, so I do think they should have been reviewed.

Umm, every single play is "reviewed" they just are able to decide on most plays before the next snap. However, in both these instances they needed more time to decide, that is why the whistle wasn't blown until just before the snap. There is no "going to the booth."

 

[synapticwave]

The 41 yard line was where Johnson landed. He caught the ball right on the 40. If he had caught it on the 39 and landed on the 41 they still would have spotted the ball there but it would have been an illegal proceedure.

Actually Johnson landed on the 43. The kicking team cannot advance the ball and the ball is spotted at the point where the player takes control of the ball. The refs should have spotted the ball at the 43, that is where the ball was when Johnson's feet came down and by rule he had possession of the ball. Not that it mattered I guess.

 

[superdorf]

I wouldn't quite be that harsh but I still think Inspector Gadget would have a hard time reaching for it.

Go go gadget arms?

 

[chicagoCy]

so what you're saying is that the refs got it right, but you still want to cry about it and blame our missed opportunities on them? we had plenty of chances to make this game ours, and i wish to God we would have. but to blame the refs for taking the time to make sure they had the right call (which they did this yr, instead of the bogus reversal 3 yrs ago) is bogus. if anything, let's point out the 3 or 4 blatant holds of our D ends that weren't called, but that's another story for another day. we had our chances and didn't capitalize, end of story.

 

[candg4ever]

Refs have a big time ego and if they did reverse it that would mean admitting that they f-ed it up by a full yard in real time, and we all know that wasn't going to happen (the admitting part anyway)...

Unless I'm mistaken, the refs don't overturn any of the calls. That's done by the replay official in the booth, the official on the field simply relays the final decision to the coaches, teams, and players.

 

[Aclone]

They didn't help any momentum at all. However, this entire thread is a way of saying the stoppages were intentional from the refs. That isn't true.

Yeah, that would be like saying that a phantom "illegal formation" call and a defeinsive holding call on a rushing play were intentional, too.

Truth be told, I think he's saying not that it's intentional, just that it was dumb to wait until the teams were lined up --which might just have been their way of waiting for a coach to throw the replay flag (or however the colleges do it)--and if Mangino had his flag stuck in his sock, it wasn't coming out any time soon.

Then there's also the point that both calls did affect momentum, whether intentional or not. Just bad timing all around.

 

[JHudd]

Go go gadget arms?

You got it. :wink:

 

[Clones85']

We dropped 2 balls on our last drive. Replay or not, it doesn't matter