How to Build ISU Football

GMan

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Yeah but in this case we don't know the body is dead, just ailing. So it would be like someone who watches Gray's Anatomy telling a doctor how to diagnose and treat a disease.

I just think it is funny that a bunch of former high school players think they can "solve" the woes of ISU. Like CPR isn't smart enough to have previously considered all the wise proposals in this thread. It is his job, after all.

Wait, so CPR doesn't troll CF looking for coaching advice? He should be fired.
 

mcblogerson

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I can tell you how not to build a program.

Call your coach/ assistant coach out, while they're trying to build something from nothing in year 3.

Call out individual players like the QB for example. Especially when he's made huge plays to win games, in his first year in the program, while his competition was a guy who was ineligible and a redshirt sophomore.

Stop supporting it because we got blown out by a more talented team on the road. Don't be a bandwagoner.

The recipe for success, starts with getting a quality coach that wants to be here. Building up a roster of the best talent you can get your hands on. Redshirting as many as possible, and hoping to land a few difference makers in the process. Get to bowl games and build a winning atmosphere.
 

im4cyclones

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I can tell you how not to build a program.

Call your coach/ assistant coach out, while they're trying to build something from nothing in year 3.

Call out individual players like the QB for example. Especially when he's made huge plays to win games, in his first year in the program, while his competition was a guy who was ineligible and a redshirt sophomore.

Stop supporting it because we got blown out by a more talented team on the road. Don't be a bandwagoner.

The recipe for success, starts with getting a quality coach that wants to be here. Building up a roster of the best talent you can get your hands on. Redshirting as many as possible, and hoping to land a few difference makers in the process. Get to bowl games and build a winning atmosphere.

+1. Thank you.
 

bostrem00

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I can tell you how not to build a program.

Call your coach/ assistant coach out, while they're trying to build something from nothing in year 3.

Call out individual players like the QB for example. Especially when he's made huge plays to win games, in his first year in the program, while his competition was a guy who was ineligible and a redshirt sophomore.

Stop supporting it because we got blown out by a more talented team on the road. Don't be a bandwagoner.

The recipe for success, starts with getting a quality coach that wants to be here. Building up a roster of the best talent you can get your hands on. Redshirting as many as possible, and hoping to land a few difference makers in the process. Get to bowl games and build a winning atmosphere.
Call me when the fans have any say in anything regarding the coaching profession within athletic departments.....
 

cyclone87

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I can tell you how not to build a program.

Call your coach/ assistant coach out, while they're trying to build something from nothing in year 3.

Call out individual players like the QB for example. Especially when he's made huge plays to win games, in his first year in the program, while his competition was a guy who was ineligible and a redshirt sophomore.

Stop supporting it because we got blown out by a more talented team on the road. Don't be a bandwagoner.

The recipe for success, starts with getting a quality coach that wants to be here. Building up a roster of the best talent you can get your hands on. Redshirting as many as possible, and hoping to land a few difference makers in the process. Get to bowl games and build a winning atmosphere.

boom! +1
 

ShopTalk

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For OL and DL recruits, look to the islands of Fiji, Tonga, New Zealand and the other South Pacific chains. Go there, have a great time as they're beautiful tropical paradises and just ask all kids who want a try out to show up and do your best to measure speed, strength and agility.

Most won't have ever played football but they are descended from headhunters and big and strong.

Worst case, you get in a working vacation. If I was on staff, I'd volunteer to recruit that area every year.
 

ShopTalk

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Wait, so CPR doesn't troll CF looking for coaching advice? He should be fired.

Exactly!

And the poster typecasting us as former H.S. players should also be fired. How do you know we're not professional football scouts?

Oh, yeah...we're making suggestions for improvement for a perennial cellar dwellar that has had the who's who of coaches come through here over the years with nary a win. Clearly, no outside help is needed.
 

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How to Build ISU Football

It boils down to line play. Period, end of story. You NEED improvement on the lines on both sides of the ball to give yourself a chance.

.... Improved play from the defensive line is the best way to remedy both of these issues.

If you want to build ISU football, you have to start with the lines.

Nailed it.

Obviously K-State has to be ISU's model. I can't imagine their team speed is any better/different, but their line play is 1000x better. Whatever their recruiting and coaching secret is we better figure it out.
 

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ISU can't recruit academically shaky JUCO's like K-State. Already covered that.

They can recruit South Pacific Islands where most islanders dream of coming to the U.S. and can count on them being big, tough as nails and proud but very very raw with little to no FB experience.
 

dualthreat

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Half the people on this board don't want to recruit but a handful of kids from the state of Iowa. Now there's a sector that wants us to recruit Wyoming?

Iowa HS football>>>>>>>Wyomings
 

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I do think we should recruit the Dakotas and Wyoming. You know who currently gets the best recruits from there? SDSU, NDSU, and Wyoming.

The population of Iowa is slightly larger than the population of North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Montana combined.
 

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The population of Iowa is slightly larger than the population of North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, and Montana combined.

There are still good players there. It might take more work to find them but they are there. Population has nothing to do with how good a player is.
 

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JUCO's are where it's at for a few years. While recruiting JUCO's, then start hitting Iowa hard to take the instate recruits. Then it's time to start thinking about Florida, Texas and we need to hit Ohio and Penns hard for high school players.
This isn't rocket science! Make it work with juco's first then build within.
 

GMan

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ISU can't recruit academically shaky JUCO's like K-State. Already covered that.

They can recruit South Pacific Islands where most islanders dream of coming to the U.S. and can count on them being big, tough as nails and proud but very very raw with little to no FB experience.

Really, CPR needs to recruit not just nationally but internationally. He needs to scour the four corners of the globe for talent. He should go to soccer academies in South America and Europe, find young soccer phenoms, convince them soccer is stupid, and they should come to ISU to play a real sport. He should go to Africa to find large homeless black guys and find a rich white family in Ames that can adopt them to turn them into linemen. Everyone saw the Blindside, right? Asians don't play football, so I guess you can skip Asia, but whoever thought China would produce the tallest basketball player in the NBA? With over a billion people, I'm sure there is at least one diamond in the rough somewhere! CPR needs to stop slacking and start doing some real recruiting!!!
 

GMan

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JUCO's are where it's at for a few years. While recruiting JUCO's, then start hitting Iowa hard to take the instate recruits. Then it's time to start thinking about Florida, Texas and we need to hit Ohio and Penns hard for high school players.
This isn't rocket science! Make it work with juco's first then build within.

OK, more seriously for me now, didn't Mac try this, and it completely blew up in his face? Isn't that basically why 2003 happened because the 2000 and 2001 classes were loaded with JUCOs to take immediate advantage of the recent bowl success? I'm not 100% sure, but I think the JUCO route works so well for K-State because the state of Kansas has a disproportionate amount of JUCO football players for a state of their size. And their instate rival sucks.

Lastly, there's no way ISU can recruit Ohio and Pennsylvania. That is completely owned by the Big 10. Do we want Big 10 players anyway?