Yeah a ready made team full of juniors and seniors with NO capable freshman, sophomore or Junior bigs. Prohm had no room for error for second season for recruiting bigs. Unfortunately his prized post recruit bailed. It was a dream situation for one season with a lot of work after that.
I have not been a prohm fan, but...
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Yeah a ready made team full of juniors and seniors with NO capable freshman, sophomore or Junior bigs. Prohm had no room for error for second season for recruiting bigs. Unfortunately his prized post recruit bailed. It was a dream situation for one season with a lot of work after that.
Lets finish that thought. All of his post recruits, not just his prize, either bailed (Malou), couldn't qaulify (Lard), or were misses (Holden, Bowie). That's not a slim margin of error, that is 0 for 4 or a over a 1/4 of a roster.
He just had to hit on one.
He was forced to catch a falling knife and you're surprised there's some blood?
But he really didn't, so now he's squeezing every ounce out of a dysfunctional lineup. People can't bash the guy for not being able to coach, right after they ***** about there being ZERO post presence. When I step back and look at this roster, and this conference, I think it's pretty impressive to be where they are.
Does Prohm need to bring in better post players? Absolutely, and I am 100% confident he knows that as well. The fact is, there just isn't that many options when you get into the spring, and even less in May when we were forced to find Holden.
Agreed, I think Prohm has done a fine job with the current roster. My point did not disparage his coaching at all. It was about his recruiting misses.
I guess you can say, yes I am surprised he couldn't land a single quality post to come play for an NCAA team. I didn't expect him to land a 5 star, only a serviceable post presence.
Holden actually is a decent post defender. He is non-existent as an offensive threat but he is a presence defensively. Bowie on the other hand has physical limitations that prevent him from being a post presence defensively. He is a serviceable 4 offensively though or at least a threat to score.
We will just have to agree to disagree on the above opinions. Which is perfectly fine.
Yeah, wasn't calling you out personally.
I'm willing to give a bit of a pass to Prohm on his inability to find one serviceable post though. It'd be different if he just doesn't try. I mean he brought in 5 new guys. It's basically bad luck that at least one isn't solid starter level. If I remember right, Holden was actually looked at very highly.
However, given what he knows now about his current roster, if he doesn't find a solution for next year, then I'll be a bit alarmed.
In one spring signing period? Not too surprising given Hoiberg missed so many times. If Fred could have added a serviceable big man for 13-14 we'd probably have at least a FF. I'm not thrilled Prohm couldn't fill the hole, but this scenrio was the most probable outcome as soon as Fred started shitting on the program in 14-15.
We're a few shots away from a great season with a limited roster from two missed recruiting cycles. That's much more encouraging about Prohm than his failed Hail Marys are incriminating.
That, along with getting any kind of offense from the 5, is really big for diversifying our offense. Young showed early that he can shoot and score. Let's let him do that. I'd like to see him get 5-6 shots a game.
It's too early to say Prohm has missed on his bigs. Can you call Bowie and Holden misses? Sure. But Young has shown promise and looks to be the starting 5 going forward. You can basically throw Lard in the 17 recruiting class as well.
Yeah, the immediate contributors were misses. Young seems like a great pick up, and let's hope Lard is too.
I am still surprised with the angst about Prohm. He took us to the Sweet 16 with a very serious head case last year. This year, he has us in 4th place in the B12 with another serious head case. Yesterday, when Burton blew a defensive move and followed that with a bad offensive decision, he was on the bench. He came back later with more focus and resolve, and contributed more. There were other examples of strategic movement of players during the game, but that was the best one in my eyes. So, Prohm is adjusting his in-game coaching to a Power 5 conference and in my mind, there will be more to come.
We have seen Solomon Young evolve faster as a player than many expected. Clearly, Prohm can develop players. I can hardly wait to see that guy in his junior and senior years; he could be a real stud. We are also seeing Jackson develop as well, which is critical for next year.
Finally, in my mind, the best endorsement of Prohm as a coach was Monte's returning for his senior year. No way that happens unless Monte, and the people around Monte, think another season with Prohm has something to offer.
We have seen Solomon Young evolve faster as a player than many expected. Clearly, Prohm can develop players. I can hardly wait to see that guy in his junior and senior years; he could be a real stud. We are also seeing Jackson develop as well, which is critical for next year.
Finally, in my mind, the best endorsement of Prohm as a coach was Monte's returning for his senior year. No way that happens unless Monte, and the people around Monte, think another season with Prohm has something to offer.
Bowie is a miss in the sense had we known we'd need him to be our best post we probably would have signed another big.
Imo Holden in combination with Malou, Lard's delay, and Ernst are the misses. Well that, and not going all in on Young in October.
