INSIDER: What I know about Rasir Bolton waiver timeline

srjclone

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Between CW and Alex it seemed like they had comments from Prohm that the paperwork got submitted a half dozen times.
There was a lot of bad information out there in articles and on Twitter, I just did a search to see when it actually was because it sounded like they would do it nearly right away and it took forever but I remember an interview with Prohm when he finally said it was actually submitted.
Alright, at least I am not crazy haha. Thanks for the clarifications!
 

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Here’s the thing.. this case looks bad on ncaa but there’s been several cases I’ve seen this year where kid moving closer to him and there’s a parent with a medical issue etc.. however his mom is apparently ok and the ncaa (right or wrong) wants to see that this kids mom will not do well unless her kid is near etc..

Waivers are about the kid. Not that I agree with it.

Wts, I just don’t see how OM gets a waiver. More playing time or an asst coach leaving isn’t a waiver approval.

I assume this means you don't see how Bolton would get a waiver then, yes?
 

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A. You are wrong. Football requests should never trump one related to basketball (unless of course ISU football is involved).

B. How about the ability to know if a projected starter should be practicing with the other starters or the scout team?

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Well, since they aren't practicing yet, I don't see how that makes any difference. They practiced for their Italy trip, but they can't practice again under a coach's supervision for a few weeks yet.
 
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Is it measured that way or by roads? I'm guessing he doesn't have a jetpack.
Well, I have seen the NCAA come out and say the distance is 105 miles so I think they measure straight line. The mom's house must be on the south side of Statesville and I was just guesstimating distance from the edge of the 100 mile circle.
 

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With Bolton it could be that the NCAA has had more questions and needed more information so that the process is dragging out. Or it's like some have said, the try to deal with Football before basketball requests. It seems like right now, Prohm had them prepare and play as if Bolton would be eligible which is what I think you have to do until you get closer to the season.

They always ask for more info in cases they say no to so it appears they thought really hard about it. Not really kidding that much. o_O
 

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Where are the two posters that confirmed (through "sources") that Bolton got the waiver and that it would be announced in a couple days? Hiding?

I believe the formal term is persona non grata.

That being said, I do not think anybody really fell for it. Everybody seemed to take it with the proper grain of skepticism without confirmation from either the really well-known insiders on here, members of the press, or from the program's own media people.

Hines checked it out and refuted it very quickly, too.
 

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Where are the two posters that confirmed (through "sources") that Bolton got the waiver and that it would be announced in a couple days? Hiding?
I'm not gonna condemn them if Bolton doesn't receive the waiver. Those posters don't have a history of purposely posting wrong info or making it seem like they "know more than the rest of us." I have on a couple of occasions known some insider info - once it was true, the other turned out not to be true. In the first case - Clayton Custer to ISU - I knew because my nephew (the source) was one of his best friends. In the second case, I heard that Eli Dunne would be the starting UNI QB against us in 2016 (from his Dad repeating a convo that Eli had with Farley early in that week): that info proved untrue (who knew that Farley, himself, would be an unreliable source?).

My point is, those two are more than likely just sharing some info from sources they think are solid. I know CFers sometimes "eat their own." I hope this isn't one of those times.
 

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I believe the formal term is persona non grata.

That being said, I do not think anybody really fell for it. Everybody seemed to take it with the proper grain of skepticism without confirmation from either the really well-known insiders on here, members of the press, or from the program's own media people.

Hines checked it out and refuted it very quickly, too.
Would the B12 have to approve the transfer as well, similar to Martin or since he's coming in from a different conference they have no say in it?
 
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Would the B12 have to approve the transfer as well, similar to Martin or since he's coming in from a different conference they have no say in it?

My understanding is the B1G only had to approve because he was transferring from one conference school to another.

That being said, the Big 12 may have completely different rules.

I struggle to find a scenario where the NCAA would approve of the waiver and then the conference would deny it.
 

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My understanding is the B1G only had to approve because he was transferring from one conference school to another.

That being said, the Big 12 may have completely different rules.

I struggle to find a scenario where the NCAA would approve of the waiver and then the conference would deny it.
If my understanding is correct, the conference has no ability to deny it. The Schools can place "restraints" and the NCAA could Deny it, but I've never heard or seen anything where a Conference has denied a transfer.
 
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If my understanding is correct, the conference has no ability to deny it. The Schools can place "restraints" and the NCAA could Deny it, but I've never heard or seen anything where a Conference has denied a transfer.
Not talking about denying a transfer. Talking about denying a waiver of sitting out a season. The NCAA can say, "no you don't have to sit out" but based on league rules the conference can say, "Not so fast, my friend." Many conferences have or had restrictions on playing right away after a transfer, especially transfers within the league.
 
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Regardless of the outcome of Bolton's request, NCAA needs to change the outdated, random, cumbersome process for transfers.

You don't have to make it unfettered free agency, just establish simplified, consistent, realistic rules and streamline the process.

I think the most frustrating part of this is that because the NCAA has done such a poor job of explaining how they make their decisions that nobody really understands the process or what constitutes valid reasons to grant or not grant a waiver.

From the outside looking in it looks like they just occasionally pull a random file from a huge stack of waiver applications and throw a dart at a wall full of post it notes, some of which say yes, some of which say no, and some of which say try again in two weeks. It feels like there's no rhyme or reason to anything they decide.
 
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