Iowa state student athlete highest ever graduation rate

Go2Guy

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Great, now if we can only get our major sport student-athletes to graduate with a degree that has some meaningful relevance to what the real world values, instead of something like a diploma from Grade 13, maybe we'll have something to brag about. .

I posted here a link ast March, from the USAToday who did a 3-part series on College "Clustering" of student-athletes. Basically, the plan at most Universities it to get a majority of their athletes jammed into one curriculum, that is 'sports friendly': No Afternoon Labs/ Professors with little project demands / and courses that allow exams by Fax & email.......say something like 'General Studies', and as long as they maintain the minimum GPA, like 2.3, or whatever, and progress towards a degree, the NCAA, and the University Admins, look the other way.

The article looked at something like 40 different D-1 programs, including Iowa, Kansas State,even Princeton et al (most B12 schools except ISU and Baylor) and found >70% of the Juniors & Seniors were all majoring in the same subject - a subject that is so vague and worthless, that most of the athletes with degrees had to reenter college at age 26 - after they found out their degree was worth nothing to most mid-level salaried career paths.

The fact is major College Sports programs use these kids for their own monetary benefit, with little regard for their long-term welfare, only to throw them out to the real world when their meaningful utility is expired, kinda like how Hugh Heffner tosses out girlfriends when they reach age 29.
 
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tazclone

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Great, now if we can only get our major sport student-athletes to graduate with a degree that has some meaningful relevance to what the real world values, instead of something like a diploma from Grade 13, maybe we'll have something to brag about. .

I posted here a link ast March, from the USAToday who did a 3-part series on College "Clustering" of student-athletes. Basically, the plan at most Universities it to get a majority of their athletes jammed into one curriculum, that is 'sports friendly': No Afternoon Labs/ Professors with little project demands / and courses that allow exams by Fax & email.......say something like 'General Studies', and as long as they maintain the minimum GPA, like 2.3, or whatever, and progress towards a degree, the NCAA, and the University Admins, look the other way.

The article looked at something like 40 different D-1 programs, including Iowa, Kansas State,even Princeton et al (most B12 schools except ISU and Baylor) and found >70% of the Juniors & Seniors were all majoring in the same subject - a subject that is so vague and worthless, that most of the athletes with degrees had to reenter college at age 26 - after they found out their degree was worth nothing to most mid-level salaried career paths.

The fact is major College Sports programs use these kids for their own monetary benefit, with little regard for their long-term welfare, only to throw them out to the real world when their meaningful utility is expired, kinda like how Hugh Heffner tosses out girlfriends when they reach age 29.
Was reading up on Harbaugh ripping Michigan and they are big proponents of "General Studies." Not sure how much ISU does this though. To me it doesn't seem as bad here as other places.

harbaugh was right about Michigan
Numbers the major point in Harbaugh-Michigan crossfire - Columnist - ESPN
 

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Was reading up on Harbaugh ripping Michigan and they are big proponents of "General Studies." Not sure how much ISU does this though. To me it doesn't seem as bad here as other places.

harbaugh was right about Michigan
Numbers the major point in Harbaugh-Michigan crossfire - Columnist - ESPN


It is done quite a bit at Iowa State as well. They will push you towards certain majors, electives, and classes quite a bit. I had one sociology elective taught by a tutor for the athletic department. The class was almost all athletes and one of the easiest classes I have ever had.
 

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IceCyIce- I believe the team gpa rose under Morgan from the LE years, and I don't know how all the players that left affect grad rates, the transfers as well as the two trying for the NBA.
 

tazclone

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It is done quite a bit at Iowa State as well. They will push you towards certain majors, electives, and classes quite a bit. I had one sociology elective taught by a tutor for the athletic department. The class was almost all athletes and one of the easiest classes I have ever had.
What level of Sociology? just curios because if it is a Gen ed requirement so what? I would be interested in seeing the breakdown of our athletes majors to see if it is like Michigan or if it is more diverse. Heck, the Soc class I took in college was easy as heel as well.
 

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cybsball20

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What level of Sociology? just curios because if it is a Gen ed requirement so what? I would be interested in seeing the breakdown of our athletes majors to see if it is like Michigan or if it is more diverse. Heck, the Soc class I took in college was easy as heel as well.


It was a 300 level class. There may have been 30 people in the class and I'm guessing 18-22 of them were athletes.
 

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No offense to student athletes, but if you come into college without doing enough research for your own future to know that, "general studies" isn't going to get you on a top tier career path, you might want to stick with general studies.

I don't know, when I entered college, actually no, when I thought of where to apply for college, I was pretty much given the impression that the college wasn't there to hold my hand and guide me through it. I needed to start taking some actions into my own hands and figure out what I wanted to do in life.

I guess I kind of understand if the students are being pressured that way. Like, "I'd like to go into accounting." "Oh no, you just need a General Studies Degree" then maybe. But really, it's your career, weather you are a student athlete or not, you have to take responsibility for your career at some point. Of course that's easy for me to say looking back, knowing how it all went for me though.
 

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We may have some athletes who have "easy" majors (or are no doubt steered towards some "easy" majors), but we also have some who do well in more difficult majors - engineering, ag, art/design, business...
 

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