Is Purdy the guy?

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Purdy threw that TD pass to Milton off his back foot because he was about to be smoked and he still got it there. He may not have elite arm strength, but it's not a concern.

Purdy is extremely accurate. IMO the slight underthrows were having receivers wide open and not wanting to overthrow them. Take the sure completion. Some of his throws were into extremely tight windows. Purdy is a baller.
 
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West Virginia will be a test. I get the feeling they will use our defense. I'm pretty sure they were the first Big 12 team to use the 3-3-5. I think they'll spy Purdy and force him to be accurate downfield. He looked capable against OSU, even when coverage was good. Butler TD was a dime as well as Milton's catch down the middle. He underthrows it just a bit because he doesn't have elite arm strength, but accuracy looks to be more of a strength than weakness.

The 3-3-5 gives a great chance for a QB with running capability to make their mark.
 

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Purdy threw that TD pass to Milton off his back foot because he was about to be smoked and he still got it there. He may not have elite arm strength, but it's not a concern.

I think it was this more than an arm strength issue.

He's got 3 more year to get a stronger arm, but I think he has a great arm for a true freshman.
 

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Purdy threw that TD pass to Milton off his back foot because he was about to be smoked and he still got it there. He may not have elite arm strength, but it's not a concern.
I noticed that about a couple of his short throws -- they were primarily thrown off-balance. That's coachable, I can live with that relatively-minor deficiency right now.
 
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Find a way to win against WV whether it is with Purdy, Kempt or even Noland. Then take a bye week to reassess. There are 3 very winnable games after the bye week. I think we would all be happy if we win all 3 games with Kempt and he looks great in the process. That way there is no question that 4.25 years of Purdy are better than 3.5 years.
 

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Find a way to win against WV whether it is with Purdy, Kempt or even Noland. Then take a bye week to reassess. There are 3 very winnable games after the bye week. I think we would all be happy if we win all 3 games with Kempt and he looks great in the process. That way there is no question that 4.25 years of Purdy are better than 3.5 years.

Purdy will go pro after RS Junior season making your decision to redshirt him a stupid decision.

And this season would count a 3/4 of a season not a half. 3.75 > 3.25
 

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Good gamesmanship by CMC in my opinion. Anyone hear about our plans to run the Veer with Kempt?

Joking aside, I think it comes down to how much confidence the staff has in ST and defense. If they think we’ll hold them to 20 again, they are okay with punting. I’m not sure that will work with DM injured, but we’ll see.
 
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I get pumping the brakes on expecting him to go for 400 and 5 TD's every week but the difference in how the offense played makes it a no brainer for this year. His legs put so much pressure on the defense to defend the entire field and we ran a wider variety of plays that we have all year. I love Kempt but he doesn't do that. If we played in a league where 20-24 points could win you games it would be a different story but in this league you have to keep putting pressure on the defense.

From a play calling perspective, you can tell the staff had a lot of confidence in Brock. Imagine once they really start opening things up
 

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I'm not sure why guys are still hung up on Kempt. This isn't even a question. Yes, he did go down and beat OU. Had some great games last year. LAST YEAR. As a defense, you don't have to respect his arm as much, see Iowa. He can't run and they could just get pressure barely rushing anyone. Great game manager, but if ISU wants to take that next step, especially with a limited OL, we need options. Purdy with the read option and ability to throw opens up lanes for rbs and can still throw over the top if they key in on him. The playbook opens up immensely. I've been wanting some play action passes the last few weeks, we finally see some great play fakes and bombs down the field with completions, it was amazing. He made plays that didn't look like a freshman could even carry out, on the road. Even if OSU had a bad defense, I don't think Noland would have put up those numbers. Noland's been overthrowing a lot lately. Great arm, but Brock just has the complete package. ISU just looked like a faster team out there Saturday. Let's not overthink this.
 

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I'm not sure why guys are still hung up on Kempt. This isn't even a question. Yes, he did go down and beat OU. Had some great games last year. LAST YEAR. As a defense, you don't have to respect his arm as much, see Iowa. He can't run and they could just get pressure barely rushing anyone. Great game manager, but if ISU wants to take that next step, especially with a limited OL, we need options. Purdy with the read option and ability to throw opens up lanes for rbs and can still throw over the top if they key in on him. The playbook opens up immensely. I've been wanting some play action passes the last few weeks, we finally see some great play fakes and bombs down the field with completions, it was amazing. He made plays that didn't look like a freshman could even carry out, on the road. Even if OSU had a bad defense, I don't think Noland would have put up those numbers. Noland's been overthrowing a lot lately. Great arm, but Brock just has the complete package. ISU just looked like a faster team out there Saturday. Let's not overthink this.
Agree overall. Kempt had a great game, and was good enough in a few others. But defenses quickly caught on to the limitations. Protecting the ball and throwing a high percentage on checkdowns are positives, but I don’t see us putting up enough points on jump balls and 3 yard passes to the sideline without Lazard and without the good WR blocking we had last year. Maybe Kempt is better than that and has been injured for most of his career.

Noland is Kempt with different faults. Some say accuracy is one of those, but he’s only 2% behind Kempt, and that’s without the benefit of Lazard. He’s not accurate enough to overcome he’s still asked to run a transparent, predictable offense as Kempt, perhaps because he doesn’t have the improvisational skills or running ability feet and the staff doesn’t trust his decision making.
 
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I'm not sure why guys are still hung up on Kempt. This isn't even a question. Yes, he did go down and beat OU. Had some great games last year. LAST YEAR. As a defense, you don't have to respect his arm as much, see Iowa. He can't run and they could just get pressure barely rushing anyone. Great game manager, but if ISU wants to take that next step, especially with a limited OL, we need options. Purdy with the read option and ability to throw opens up lanes for rbs and can still throw over the top if they key in on him. The playbook opens up immensely. I've been wanting some play action passes the last few weeks, we finally see some great play fakes and bombs down the field with completions, it was amazing. He made plays that didn't look like a freshman could even carry out, on the road. Even if OSU had a bad defense, I don't think Noland would have put up those numbers. Noland's been overthrowing a lot lately. Great arm, but Brock just has the complete package. ISU just looked like a faster team out there Saturday. Let's not overthink this.
I agree I for the life of me can’t figure out what people see in Kempt. Someone who follows recruiting could maybe answer this but Noland is a better option especially if he is freed up in the playcalling. Is he afraid of taking the runs and stuff like that. When he does do it he looks much better at it than Kempt. Kempt did great things but at this point he doesn’t do anything the other side can’t do. He is also gone after this year. I’d put Kempt solidly third now. He is of much more use to us IMO as a mentor and coach.
 

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I'm not sure why guys are still hung up on Kempt. This isn't even a question. Yes, he did go down and beat OU. Had some great games last year. LAST YEAR. As a defense, you don't have to respect his arm as much, see Iowa. He can't run and they could just get pressure barely rushing anyone. Great game manager, but if ISU wants to take that next step, especially with a limited OL, we need options. Purdy with the read option and ability to throw opens up lanes for rbs and can still throw over the top if they key in on him. The playbook opens up immensely. I've been wanting some play action passes the last few weeks, we finally see some great play fakes and bombs down the field with completions, it was amazing. He made plays that didn't look like a freshman could even carry out, on the road. Even if OSU had a bad defense, I don't think Noland would have put up those numbers. Noland's been overthrowing a lot lately. Great arm, but Brock just has the complete package. ISU just looked like a faster team out there Saturday. Let's not overthink this.

I don't get why people are so hung up on a freshman having one great game. It's not the first time that's ever happened. That being said I'd definitely give the kid the start against West Virginia and maybe after the bye week and see where you're at with Purdy. Kempt even with his faults won some big games last year for us and if Purdy falls on his face the next two weeks I don't see why you wouldn't sit him a gain and save the red shirt. Now if he goes out and throws for close to 300 yards and keeps the turnovers and a minimum in those next two games he's absolutely going to be the starter from here on out and he should be.
 

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I agree I for the life of me can’t figure out what people see in Kempt. Someone who follows recruiting could maybe answer this but Noland is a better option especially if he is freed up in the playcalling. Is he afraid of taking the runs and stuff like that. When he does do it he looks much better at it than Kempt. Kempt did great things but at this point he doesn’t do anything the other side can’t do. He is also gone after this year. I’d put Kempt solidly third now. He is of much more use to us IMO as a mentor and coach.

I think ISU has three good QBs right now who each offer a little something different. Kempt is the stabilizing force and steady performer. His teammates rally around him; there's always something to be said for the intangibles guy. Noland is the big arm and the guy who can stretch the field for the offense. Purdy is the best runner of the bunch and he can sling it a bit, too. My first inclination would be to give Purdy another start and let him try to lock down the job. If it was only Purdy or Zeb I think it would be a slam dunk decision to start Purdy again. But if Kempt is healthy and ready to go? We all know how much this coaching staff thinks of him, and that complicates thingas a bit.
 

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I don't get why people are so hung up on a freshman having one great game. It's not the first time that's ever happened. That being said I'd definitely give the kid the start against West Virginia and maybe after the bye week and see where you're at with Purdy. Kempt even with his faults won some big games last year for us and if Purdy falls on his face the next two weeks I don't see why you wouldn't sit him a gain and save the red shirt. Now if he goes out and throws for close to 300 yards and keeps the turnovers and a minimum in those next two games he's absolutely going to be the starter from here on out and he should be.

But that's the risk you run with starting Purdy, right? How many times did we see Rhoads mismanage his QB situation by yanking guys in and out of the lineup until their confidence was shot to pieces? I get that it's a different staff and they'll probably handle things better, but there's definitely a potential downside to throwing a guy out there before he's ready to be a full time starter.

I still think Purdy should be the guy taking snaps next Saturday. I'm just saying I understand the case for Kempt if he's healthy and cleared to play.
 
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