ISU Bowl Projection

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Way too early to say that. You expect that the SEC will have 5 or 6 teams with 10+ wins? Respectfully - I don't think so. History has shown that they most likely won't do it. There is going to be a team or two that doesn't live up to the potential. They've only had 5 with 10+ once in the last 5 years. Same with the B1G - twice in the last 5 years they've only had two teams with 10+ wins. We don't know how their new teams will impact things but I don't expect a huge change - there are only so many wins to go around.

Just give it time - most teams have played only 1-2 conference games at this point. Come back at the end of October - we'll have a much better idea. I'm not saying it's impossible that the SEC/B1G will get 8 teams - they probably will about once every 3 years. I do think it's impossible that they will get 9. There's going to be at least one 11 win ACC/B12 or 10+ ND in every year.
I never stated that those teams were all going to get to 10+ wins and they do not have too to make the playoff. If a B12 teams has the same number of wins as either a B10 or SEC team, they are taking those teams over the B12 member. So unless we can get a couple teams at 10+ wins we are only getting one bid. Like you said its early in the season, but for the B12 to get two teams in we are going to need two teams that win 11 games,
 

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You said it was out in the spring, not true, the link you posted was from 22 hours ago, the tweet I posted was from Sept. 30th. Neither of which was in the spring, now were they? So I guess you were wrong here, and as usual back with the B10 arrogance.

Also since your here, the 4-1 Michigan team that you stated the fans have all but given up on a playoff spot this season, is looking pretty damn good, and in very good shape for a playoff spot.
It was proposed in February. There were various discussions about it in multiple threads. If you had clicked the article he linked you would see in the very first paragraph that it was continued discussions.
 

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It was proposed in February. There were various discussions about it in multiple threads. If you had clicked the article he linked you would see in the very first paragraph that it was continued discussions.
It was proposed in the spring and was decided to only go with a 12 team playoff, when they meet again next week, the SEC and B10 are going back to pushing what they wanted to begin with. So this is a 2nd attempt by the SEC and B10 to get what it wants.
 
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You said it was out in the spring, not true, the link you posted was from 22 hours ago, the tweet I posted was from Sept. 30th. Neither of which was in the spring, now were they? So I guess you were wrong here, and as usual back with the B10 arrogance.

Also since your here, the 4-1 Michigan team that you stated the fans have all but given up on a playoff spot this season, is looking pretty damn good, and in very good shape for a playoff spot.
Swing and a miss again as others have pointed out. But keep being publicly wrong it’s kinda funny.

Yeah guess what, Michigan still doesn’t have a QB. Most fans are hoping the OSU score isn’t too lopsided while repeated that last years natty goes brrrrr
 

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It was proposed in the spring and was decided to only go with a 12 team playoff, when they meet again next week, the SEC and B10 are going back to pushing what they wanted to begin with. So this is a 2nd attempt by the SEC and B10 to get what it wants.
So you’re admitting it was initially proposed months ago?
 

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I never stated that those teams were all going to get to 10+ wins and they do not have too to make the playoff. If a B12 teams has the same number of wins as either a B10 or SEC team, they are taking those teams over the B12 member. So unless we can get a couple teams at 10+ wins we are only getting one bid. Like you said its early in the season, but for the B12 to get two teams in we are going to need two teams that win 11 games,
10-2 B1G/SEC teams will get in over all others. There's been a lot of talk, but when push comes to shove I highly doubt that a 9 win SEC or B1G team will get in over a 10+ win B12/ACC team unless there are extenuating circumstances. You have to remember, this is a different environment than the 4 team playoff. People really fought for that #2 SEC or B1G team to get a shot in a 4 team playoff, which leads to worthy teams from other conferences getting left out. I doubt they're going to fight for the #5 or #6 SEC with more passion than the #2 B12 or ACC. ESPN gets their cut regardless, so they only want to big the matchup that has the most TV viewer interest regardless of conference. Here's what I think is the order of selection. I doubt you will see many P4 10-2 teams left out.

This Group is Always In:
10+ B1G/SEC -> Always in, unless it's a "Fake ID" team who played no one, then they may drop
10+ ND -> Always in

This Group is in if there is room/they exist, picked in order:
11+B12/ACC
9-3 SEC Team with late upset over undefeated or one loss SEC favorite
10-2/3 B12/ACC (Usually we won't get past here by the time we fill 12 teams)
10-2 "Fake ID" B1G/SEC (drops here only if its conference already has 3-4 teams in, otherwise picked first)
2nd Undefeated G5 Team
9-3 Other SEC
9-3 B1G
9-3 FSU/Clemson/ND
9-3 Other B12/ACC
 

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So you’re admitting it was initially proposed months ago?
I am saying it was purposed and shot down, do they currently have 4 teams right now that the SEC and B10 currently have, locked into playoff spots.? The answer would be no, but now they are bringing it up again.

So the B10 purposed it, and did not get it, and are again trying to bring it up now, really has nothing to do with them attempting to do it in the spring, when it did not pass. Lets face it, you are playing word games, and refuse to admit that they tried, got shot down and are attempting to do it again.
 

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I am saying it was purposed and shot down, do they currently have 4 teams right now that the SEC and B10 currently have, locked into playoff spots.? The answer would be no, but now they are bringing it up again.

So the B10 purposed it, and did not get it, and are again trying to bring it up now, really has nothing to do with them attempting to do it in the spring, when it did not pass. Lets face it, you are playing word games, and refuse to admit that they tried, got shot down and are attempting to do it again.

You said it was out in the spring, not true, the link you posted was from 22 hours ago, the tweet I posted was from Sept. 30th. Neither of which was in the spring, now were they? So I guess you were wrong here, and as usual back with the B10 arrogance.

Also since your here, the 4-1 Michigan team that you stated the fans have all but given up on a playoff spot this season, is looking pretty damn good, and in very good shape for a playoff spot.
My guy, this is you saying that it is not true that the proposal happened earlier this year. Sparty then linked an article from this week and in the FIRST paragraph they brought up the proposal earlier this year and that this weeks discussions were CONTINUED discussions.

Next you’re gonna go “well February isn’t in spring”
 

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You got a source for that? I pay very close attention to the committee rankings. I remember them discussing it one year, but if it was official criteria, I feel like it would be a way bigger talking point.

Nothing about it here: https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2016/10/24/selection-committee-protocol
All I can say is follow @cfbmatrix on Twitter. He's been on the formula since day one, he'll put out the rankings before the committee does and will be almost exactly right. @ChrisMWilliams used to have him on KXNO.
 
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How is wins over Utah, KSU and Iowa better than wins over Oklahoma and LSU? Ole Miss would only have a loss to Georgia and a loss to Kentucky which gave Georgia fits the week before. Not going to pile up milage points from beating KU, Houston, Baylor and WV.
Because 3 quality wins is better than two. Forget what YOU think is a good team, record is all that matters. Beating a 7-5 Ark St team will be considered a better win than beating a 6-6 Oklahoma team.
 

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Well, you must not think the playoff committee matters because in their eyes, that's the case.
Link, because that is 1000% wrong that an ark st 7-5 G5 win is better then am Oklahoma sec win almost regarieee of record. G5 wins don’t count because every decent team is supposed to win, the losses hurt the wine don’t help
 

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