I'm not breaking any unspoken CF rules if I root for UNI to beat KU in the tournament again, am I? I'm not gonna lie, that would be ******* awesome.
ISU falls to 14th. UNI 13 in AP
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Not sure what's up with all the UNI hate on here. This is their best team ever. For us, this might not even be our best team in the past two years. Calm down a little. They are ranked 13th and can climb higher. Good for them. Wichita State is not a top 5 team, but that's still a pretty solid win. If UNI wins @ Wichita State, we will all know they are legit.
No shame in being 14th in the country.
No shame in being 14th in the country.
I'd be willing to bet on this, matchup unseen. UNI is actually a good team.
LOL @ you thinking UNI is going to be a 2 or a 3 seed. Wow..... Yes they will lose to the lower seed, but it won't be in Omaha.
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If they win out, they'll be a 2. Good be a 1 if some other top teams lose (I'm looking at you, Duke, Virginia, Gonzaga and Wisconsin).
Wow... this has been an interesting read so far. Good lunchtime entertainment.
A few things:
1. I don't think any UNI will argue that the MVC is in any way tougher than the Big 12. So please stop making this argument, there is no argument to be made. Big 12 > MVC
2. The rankings really mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. My guess is ISU ends up with a higher NCAA Tournament seed than UNI when all is said and done. ISU is likely a 3-4 seed, UNI will likely be a 5-6 seed (unless they run the table, which is unlikely with a game still at Wichita State).
3. For the few idiots posting, Texas Tech would not be the 3rd best team in the MVC. They lost to Loyola by 18 on a neutral court. Loyola is currently tied for 6th place in the MVC.
4. Rip UNI's schedule all you want if that's what will help you sleep at night. However, ISU could have easily played UNI this year. It was Iowa and Iowa State who wanted to end the home-and-homes with UNI and Drake. That would have been another big game for both UNI and ISU's non-conference strength of schedule.
5. Finally, as always, good luck the rest of the season. I wish the Cyclones well, unless of course they play UNI in the NCAA Tournament.
A few things:
1. I don't think any UNI will argue that the MVC is in any way tougher than the Big 12. So please stop making this argument, there is no argument to be made. Big 12 > MVC
2. The rankings really mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. My guess is ISU ends up with a higher NCAA Tournament seed than UNI when all is said and done. ISU is likely a 3-4 seed, UNI will likely be a 5-6 seed (unless they run the table, which is unlikely with a game still at Wichita State).
3. For the few idiots posting, Texas Tech would not be the 3rd best team in the MVC. They lost to Loyola by 18 on a neutral court. Loyola is currently tied for 6th place in the MVC.
4. Rip UNI's schedule all you want if that's what will help you sleep at night. However, ISU could have easily played UNI this year. It was Iowa and Iowa State who wanted to end the home-and-homes with UNI and Drake. That would have been another big game for both UNI and ISU's non-conference strength of schedule.
5. Finally, as always, good luck the rest of the season. I wish the Cyclones well, unless of course they play UNI in the NCAA Tournament.
Both teams played two games last week. What Top 15 team did ISU beat last week? Losing @Okie State and beating #11 ISU is better than losing at #8 Kansas and beating Texas Tech.
Maybe because they demanded that we come and play in their oversized high school gym every other year as part of the deal? It's funny that they demand this as though they are some powerhouse, and not a mid-major basketball team. I have absolutely no interest in seeing ISU play UNI. The only reason I get excited to play them in football is because it's the season opener. If we're going to be doing a home and home, I would much rather see it against some other Midwestern school. Maybe Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Nebraska. I would actually get excited for those games.
How high do you think UNI and WSU should rise in the rankings given that WSU has zero good wins and one of UNI's two quality wins is that WSU team? Few are questioning if UNI is good, we're questioning the concept of moving teams down when the lose @KU or @ISU but moving up a team like WSU every week that has zero quality wins.
in my opinion 13-14 is about as high as you could possibly put either mvc given the one or possibly two quality wins shared among the two thus far this season
There is virtually no way that UNI can get all the way to a #2 seed. They have one, potentially two ncaa tourney teams left on their entire schedule. And if they beat Wichita State in both of those games it would send Wichita State's seed WAY down since it would mean their best win would be against TULSA. There are too many teams slotted in the seeds #1-#3 that still have a big handful of quality wins and more quality wins available still for UNI to pass them just by beating a bunch of MVC creampuffs.
I have no problem with UNI getting ranked in the Top 10. that said, they will not be getting rewarded with a Top 10 caliber tourney seed, even if they win out. Their "who did you beat, who did you lose to" resume is a far cry from any of the other teams in the running for those seeds.
In my honest opinion, ISU shouldn't have fallen this week. Should have stayed where they were. Also, IMHO, UNI should currently be ranked about 15. I say UNI has no chance of breaking into the Top 10 this season unless they win out, even then it may not happen, which is fine with me. I'm just enjoying the ride and hoping for a few wins in March.
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UNI has no chance at a 1 seed. Witchita state last year coming off a run to the final 4 was undefeated going into the tourney and still was the third overall 1 seed. Two years ago Gonzaga went 31-2, 6-1 against power 5 schools in the non conference and they were the 4th overall one seed.
UNI simply doesn't have the schedule to be in the discussion of being a 1 seed without running the table. I think they're a nice top 20-25 team. They won't make it past the 2nd round in the tourney.
The ap voting suggests UNI and WSU will keep moving up. Seeding history says they'll likely be seeded below that ranking. Look at ISU's conf schedule to understand the frustration, or look at KU's overall schedule which is the top SOS with some separation. I saw UNI in person, they are a dangerous team (that now had the enemy of hype to battle for the first time), but it's not an accurate ranking that suggests they would be second place and nearly first in the country's toughest rpi conference.
I never said it was accurate. In fact, I said the following:
The rankings really mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. My guess is ISU ends up with a higher NCAA Tournament seed than UNI when all is said and done. ISU is likely a 3-4 seed, UNI will likely be a 5-6 seed (unless they run the table, which is unlikely with a game still at Wichita State).
There is no doubt in my mind that UNI will have a lower seed in the NCAA Tournament than what their AP or Coaches Top 25 ranking indicates. The committee does a much better job of looking at teams than a majority of the poll voters do. UNI's SOS will absolutely keep them from getting a 1,2,3, and possibly even 4-seed in the tournament. Like I said before, a 5 or 6 seed is what I'm expecting for UNI.
