ISU Gambling Megathread

8bitnes

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“He grew up on a small farm”. Would love to know what the acres are on this “small farm”. great baseline for developing the mindset that money is free though.
The extended Dekkers families from Hawarden, IA has received $1,555,xxx in ag farm subsidies the past 25ish years. Hunter's parents aren't listed as owners, so probably crop sharing on grandparents' land.

For comparison sakes, my mom operates 200 acres and has received $68,xxx over the same time frame.

Using a simple proportion would imply the extended Dekkers families operates about 4600 acres
 

NoCreativity

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How many parents let their high school kids and their friends drink alcohol in the basement?
"As long as I know they are home, they are safe"
It's a similar train of thought.
I probably would allow the gambling before the drinking.
True, however drinking in the basement doesn't leave an electronic trail or affect the integrity of an entire sport either.
 
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CascadeClone

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the bolded. The remaining players didn't break any Iowa laws apparently.

Theoretically the remaining players could have all bet on college football games which would make them ineligible. Of course it's also possible they all bet $5 on an MLB game and they won't miss any games.
do we know when we will know what's the full story and the final damage?
 

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I understand all of those things. BUT, had he gotten Duggan in 2019, I'd be willing to bet he might not have scored Dekkers in 2020. So please explain how my statement is off base.

We’ll never know because Duggan did not want to sit behind Brock Purdy. Easton Dean was the QB commit in 2019. IMO they were thinking a change of position for Dean. So we took 2 QB’s in 2020 as we had another spot in QB room available. JMO. Dekkers was highly rated and committed in June 2019 as a member of 2020 Class.
 

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Well this just got interesting...

I'm on board for this. I've been curious to the legality/justification of the Geofence to begin with and especially if they were selectively targeting individuals to investigate it could get sketchy quick. If any court agrees with the defense here, you could be looking at millions in damages against the DCI for this. An illegal search the result of which got this guy fired from a million dollar job? That's not even including the rest of the athletes.
 

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I'm on board for this. I've been curious to the legality/justification of the Geofence to begin with and especially if they were selectively targeting individuals to investigate it could get sketchy quick. If any court agrees with the defense here, you could be looking at millions in damages against the DCI for this. An illegal search the result of which got this guy fired from a million dollar job? That's not even including the rest of the athletes.
This would do nothing for the suspensions er anything along those lines, nor does it remove guilt on what these morons did. But it could get them out of the legal trouble.
 
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Clonefan32

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What a shot in dark.

I bet this lawyer doesn't think cops should survel drug dealers when trying to stop drug trafficking and should instead apply their resources equally to the general population.

Completely different set of circumstances, and I actually think the attorney is making a solid argument.

For the crime they are charged with, their status as athletes is completely irrelevant. I'd venture to guess if they did the same diligence they did towards the athletes towards the general population you'd turn up thousands of people who are using their parents identities for gambling accounts. I'd imagine it's extremely prevalent. But to only target your investigation into male athletes at the two major D1 schools is legally problematic.
 

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I'm on board for this. I've been curious to the legality/justification of the Geofence to begin with and especially if they were selectively targeting individuals to investigate it could get sketchy quick. If any court agrees with the defense here, you could be looking at millions in damages against the DCI for this. An illegal search the result of which got this guy fired from a million dollar job? That's not even including the rest of the athletes.

The truth is an absolute defense in any case these players could bring against the state. This may or may not work to get them out of their legal issues, I have no idea. That's it though. It will not work to avoid punishment by the NCAA or the NFL.