Jamie Pollard on KXNO today

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The Iowa State Center is fine...just needs a rebranding as the "Historic" Iowa State Center, that's all.

I kid. Scheman was outdated 20 years ago. I've lost touch in the last decade or so, but unless some major work was done it has to be in terrible shape. Likewise, Stephens was really showing its age and neglect the last time I was there a few years ago. And of course the crumbling walkways didn't help either.

I think the original designs were probably fine, but what do people expect when you build something and then never touch it again for 50 years? You could update incrementally to keep it somewhat modernized and from falling into disrepair, but so many of these public buildings just sit there until they become so shabby that it takes a major capital campaign to re-do them entirely.
 

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The Iowa State Center is fine...just needs a rebranding as the "Historic" Iowa State Center, that's all.

I kid. Scheman was outdated 20 years ago. I've lost touch in the last decade or so, but unless some major work was done it has to be in terrible shape. Likewise, Stephens was really showing its age and neglect the last time I was there a few years ago. And of course the crumbling walkways didn't help either.

I think the original designs were probably fine, but what do people expect when you build something and then never touch it again for 50 years? You could update incrementally to keep it somewhat modernized and from falling into disrepair, but so many of these public buildings just sit there until they become so shabby that it takes a major capital campaign to re-do them entirely.

I feel like they need to expand Scheman with some flat space for conventions and connect to both Hilton and Stephens. That would do wonders for both ISC and Cytown.
 
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My biggest takeaway: 'student athletes and staff' mentioned twice regarding the gambling issue. First I've heard staff is involved. Did I miss something here?
I caught that too - I didn’t think there was staff at Iowa state mixed up in the gambling probe..wonder if it was just a general statement about training or if more shoes to drop.
 

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I feel like they need to expand Scheman with some flat space for conventions and connect to both Hilton and Stephens. That would do wonders for both ISC and Cytown.

I was commenting only on their original intent and design. I agree they aren't adequate for where Pollard is trying to go with CyTown.

And don't forget, renovation/expansion of Scheman was on the table years ago and got voted down. Everyone in Ames knows more convention space is needed.
 
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I caught that too - I didn’t think there was staff at Iowa state mixed up in the gambling probe..wonder if it was just a general statement about training or if more shoes to drop.
Maybe that’s why Mo Ba was replaced. I have found nothing to indicate he landed another job but I could have missed something.
 

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And when you think about how many rules there are and how many conflicts they have to avoid, it becomes obvious they'd have to use a computer. Even what would seem like small changes could quickly spiral into violating a bunch of rules they're trying to follow.
Once the 1-68 seed list is determined, it is fairly easy but time consuming to fill in the bracket and adhere to all of the principles including location preferences. But after the screwup a few years ago with placing BYU in a potential Sunday game, the computer was exclusively utilized.
 

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Im honestly surprised about the feelings about the ISU center? Am I missing something, or is it just an old run down convention center and an auditorium?
The whole ISC and Hilton and Jack Trice were all part of the same grand vision for the "front porch" of the University. Scheman and Stephens were important economic cornerstones for the University and Ames for decades until many of the events they hosted were moved to newer facilities in Des Moines. Stephens in particular has some great history and has been awarded for its architecture, which iirc includes extremely high quality acoustics. Obviously the University has to adapt to the times, but Stephens in particular is a great building that I think still has both tangible and intangible value if it gets maintained and the new CyTown brings in the conferences and other events/performances that one would hope.

Scheman, I don't really care what they do with it, but the University does need to have a place to hold conferences. Fischer Theater is fine and serves its purpose well. I'm glad CyTown is happening to brighten the place up.
 

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The primary purpose of Cytown is to maximize the value of this real estate to throw off $10-$15 million per year in free cash flow to update CYS, FT, Scheman, and then supplement the AD. Getting parking lots out of a flood plain is of paramount importance. Why people are critical of this is amazing.
 
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The primary purpose of Cytown is to maximize the value of these real estate to throw off $10-$15 million per year in free cash flow to update CYS, FT, Scheman, and then supplement the AD. Getting parking lots out of a flood plain is of paramount importance. Why people bare critical of this is amazing.


Hopefully, the updates to Stephens, Fisher, and Scheman will eventually lead them to profitability for the AD too.
 

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Exactly. And if you search images of LeCorbusier, you’ll see the inspiration for Stephens auditorium.
"Howard Heemstra (a professor of mine) worked with Crites & McConnell in the design of that auditorium, and he tells the story of how, in designing the space for acoustics, they used a way of projecting light beams and you could tell how the sounds were going to be reflected." It was also an acoustical marvel at the time.
 

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I was commenting only on their original intent and design. I agree they aren't adequate for where Pollard is trying to go with CyTown.

And don't forget, renovation/expansion of Scheman was on the table years ago and got voted down. Everyone in Ames knows more convention space is needed.
That was so stupid. They had the project all set up. University was kicking in. City was on board. No public bond or new sales or property tax hikes. Just an extra hotel tax that out of towners would be paying. Got voted down.
 

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Many of these same arguments apply to the UNI series in football as well. Wish we would take our own advice and cut that one loose too.
I just don't know why the game isn't played as the third game of the year instead of the first. Scheduling it first only helps UNI. Team hasn't been tested yet, still figuring things out, meanwhile UNI has devoted their entire off-season to maximizing their performance in this one game.
 

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CY Stephens is a dump. I couldn’t believe how crappy it was when I was in there a month ago. Several rows were taped off from the roof leaking I think. Carpet is frayed and torn. Seats completely worn out. Terrible bathrooms. It needs either a massive renovation or torn down.

It's only a dump because no one has kept up with it. In concept it's an absolute gem of a building. It was named Iowa's building of the century even. All buildings need care/maintenance just like our houses. I hope they can put some money into it as it does serve a great purpose.
 

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The primary purpose of Cytown is to maximize the value of these real estate to throw off $10-$15 million per year in free cash flow to update CYS, FT, Scheman, and then supplement the AD. Getting parking lots out of a flood plain is of paramount importance. Why people bare critical of this is amazing.

Bingo! We need CyTown to succeed in order to fix up Stephens, Fisher, etc. That’s the whole plan. JP said it was going to take a while for this to work. Patience.
 

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I don't know, if losing to drake or uni keeps us out of the tournament then so be it, we'd probably lose in the first round anyways.

No one cares about the 10 meaningless games against Arkansas a&m and Chicago state etc. If we aren't playing games that make us excited then what are doing? Why not play games that are interesting? Sure we can make it a Hilton only thing but I say we should for sure play them.

But sounds like I'm alone in this...
I could understand this if our strength of schedule rating was average or lower. But when we have one of the highest ranked strength of schedules in the nation, you want to make it even more ridiculously tough?

No thanks.
 

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If UNI\Drake would agree to this, the games would already have been scheduled. They won't accept that.
Exactly. UNI/Drake expect to get the 'home town' discount and do a home/home. We don't do that with any smaller conference team and we shouldn't with those two as well. Home/neutral site is the only way we should play these teams away from Hilton.