Jon Gruden’s QB Spotlight for NFL draft: Hunter Deckers inside the FFCA

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Rocco is the first ISU QB that I can recall leading us to late victories. Dekkers threw a lot of INTs during his one year as a starter and he didn't look very good overall, but play calling May have had something to do with that. He didn't take a lot of shots down the field. Even though he played JUCO ball this year, those reps were valuable for him and he put together a solid season. Hopefully the team that picks him up is a good fit for him.

In other news, Aidan Bouman is using his covid year and returning to South Dakota, where he will start for the 4th straight season.
He was a sophomore and we just flat out weren't very good that year. He had no help at skill positions.
 

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Eh Park was mobile and had a cannon he was just off his rocker
He didn't have Dekkers arm though. That guy has elite arm strength. There are starting QBs in the NFL that wish they had his arm. It's a shame he messed up to a point where he couldn't get a 2nd chance(even at another D1 school). I think he would have been special at ISU eventually. I give the guy credit for owning it and not blaming anyone else. I really hope he finds his way somewhere in professional football
 
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He didn't have Dekkers arm though. That guy has elite arm strength. There are starting QBs in the NFL that wish they had his arm. It's a shame he messed up to a point where he couldn't get a 2nd chance(even at another D1 school). I think he would have been special at ISU eventually. I give the guy credit for owning it and not blaming anyone else. I really hope he finds his way somewhere in professional football
Don’t get me wrong I agree that Dekkers has a strong arm, I just saw Park make some throws no one else has. I also think Dekkers deserves a chance at the NFL.
 

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He was a sophomore and we just flat out weren't very good that year. He had no help at skill positions.

Talented but not sure about between the ears and ego.

Also I don't think of touch on throws when I think of his game.
 

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Talented but not sure about between the ears and ego.

Also I don't think of touch on throws when I think of his game.
No doubt he needed to improve mentally, but you saw him as a sophomore on a lousy team. I mean just give him Charlie Kolar and his completion % goes up 5% and he probably gets 5 more tds and 500 more yds. Brock probably doesn't lead that team to any more wins than they had. We never got to see him play as an upperclassmen on a decent team.
 

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No doubt he needed to improve mentally, but you saw him as a sophomore on a lousy team. I mean just give him Charlie Kolar and his completion % goes up 5% and he probably gets 5 more tds and 500 more yds. Brock probably doesn't lead that team to any more wins than they had. We never got to see him play as an upperclassmen on a decent team.

His stats were pretty good. He looked about the same in the game I saw him in last fall- good but kinda weird with the ball at times.

At ISU I saw a deer in headlights that argued with coaches and teammates and personally I've never wondered about what he would have done.
 

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He was a sophomore and we just flat out weren't very good that year. He had no help at skill positions.
He had Hutchinson but that was about it. Sophomore version of Noel which was not near the junior and senior versions. Running back room was very beat up all year too.
 
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Don’t get me wrong I agree that Dekkers has a strong arm, I just saw Park make some throws no one else has. I also think Dekkers deserves a chance at the NFL.
If he makes a roster it will be an incredibly unique story. And in a good way, I think.
 
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Dekkers was certainly at the Big 12 pro day. He was mainly throwing to TE and RB, which had to be frustrating for an Arm that can sling it 75+ yards.

As far as his lost years at Iowa State, we will never know.

But I do know he was the starting QB for an Iowa State win at Kinnick.

That’s pure Cardinal and Gold to me!
 
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I wonder if the gambling stuff had not happened where would we be as a program right now. Would Dekkers played well enough to keep his job or would we have problems winning and Rocco takes over at some point? In hindsight I don't think we have the season we.juat did if Rocco doesn't get put in the situation he did the previous season.
Rocco and the receivers were clutch. Won a lot of close games.
 

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His stats were pretty good. He looked about the same in the game I saw him in last fall- good but kinda weird with the ball at times.

At ISU I saw a deer in headlights that argued with coaches and teammates and personally I've never wondered about what he would have done.
That happens a lot with first year starters when their line cant block and receivers can't get open. That was a piss poor football team top to bottom
 
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I agree. I'm perfectly happy with Rocco driving our train. Even before the gambling scandal surfaced, I wasn't really sure about Dekkers' leadership. Maybe that's not fair, but I just have a feeling our guys rally around Rocco better.
The Rocco versus Hunter debate is exactly why scouts shouldn't get carried away with things like arm strength, arm talent and height.

Hunter has more arm talent and height than Rocco, but there are zero situations where I would ever take Hunter over Rocco. Rocco is one of the nation's best quarterbacks, so was Brock Purdy when he was here. They did it with accuracy, anticipation, and being able to process defenses quickly.
 

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That happens a lot with first year starters when their line cant block and receivers can't get open. That was a piss poor football team top to bottom

I don't recall Purdy or Becht openly arguing with coaches or teammates. Jacob Park did and was removed from the program.

He had Xavier Hutchinson, Noel, a solid RB group and a very good defense to work with and a team that was a handful of plays in 3-4 games from being 7-5ish instead if 4-8.

He seemed to struggle with completing check down passes without throwing a rock.
For me he goes in the same column with Park, Grill, etc in that I wish them well but don't miss them and it was likely best for everyone and I'll leave it at that.
 

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Players develop and mature. We don’t know what Hunter might have become here, with two more years of coaching and experience, and a better team around him. He might have plateaued, he might have thrown for 4,000 yards and 40 TD’s. We’ll never know.

And that’s fine.

What I can say, with great certainty, is that his mom had (and likely has) great legs.
 
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That happens a lot with first year starters when their line cant block and receivers can't get open. That was a piss poor football team top to bottom

You seem to be pretty defensive about Dekkers. It's hard to know if that team was piss poor despite of him or in large part because of him. That team lost a lot of close games and Hunter wasn't able to lead any game winning drives (except for Iowa).

He seems to be the opposite of Rocco. Hunter knew he was going to be the starter for years. He impressed everyone in practice. Supposedly Campbell was going to take him to USC. When it was game time he kind of folded.

In contrast, it seems as though Rocco wasn't super impressive in fall camp and then kind of became a gamer who led us to two really great years.
 
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You seem to be pretty defensive about Dekkers. It's hard to know if that team was piss poor despite of him or in large part because of him. That team lost a lot of close games and Hunter wasn't able to lead any game winning drives (except for Iowa).

He seems to be the opposite of Rocco. Hunter knew he was going to be the starter for years. He impressed everyone in practice. Supposedly Campbell was going to take him to USC. When it was game time he kind of folded.

In contrast, it seems as though Rocco wasn't super impressive in fall camp and then kind of became a gamer who led us to two really great years.
I don’t think he’s being “defensive”. He’s being fair.

Even Brock had his crappy moments when his pass protection broke down. Some of those weird interceptions are legend.
 

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He didn't have Dekkers arm though. That guy has elite arm strength. There are starting QBs in the NFL that wish they had his arm. It's a shame he messed up to a point where he couldn't get a 2nd chance(even at another D1 school). I think he would have been special at ISU eventually. I give the guy credit for owning it and not blaming anyone else. I really hope he finds his way somewhere in professional football
So is he the next coming of Jeff George?