If the game was officiated correctly ... ISU most certainly wins. But it shouldn't have been that close anyway.
Let’s talk about the refs
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Murph seems like a total moron. Yeah ISU jumped offsides a lot...WSU won the game MOSTLY because they jumped offsides just as much and never got called even on scoring plays.
Murph needs to hang it up, if you think saying this was a fair contest makes you impartial it doesn't. It makes you seem blind and dumb.
Two kinds of people. Those who can face a crappy truth and those who chose to be soothed by delusions.
I guess it's whatever you have to do for yourself to cope. For me it's admitting reality and venting about reality, for others its living a fantasy delusion where the officials didn't affect the outcome when they obviously did.
right now i have bigger problems than the refs. this game gave my entire family norovirus. i'm half-drunk and cleaning up a pukestorm all over the house.
nah, **** it.....i'd rather deal with another norovirus family night again than watch that another ref job like that on TV.
nah, **** it.....i'd rather deal with another norovirus family night again than watch that another ref job like that on TV.
This game was the perfect storm for a loss. ISU is clearly the better team. Too many mistakes gave the game away. Even with the mistakes officiating was the nail in the coffin.
It's not an either/or.
The mistakes in officiating definitely could have swung two points regardless of whether ISU made mistakes or played some fantasy flawless game. Simply calling HALF of the missed offsides on WSU's scoring plays probably gives ISU the game.
Curious why our offsides count, but WSU's many uncalled offsides don't count. Enjoy your delusion.
Turnovers are killer. Even so, the officiating was absolutely horrid, bordering on crooked. It almost seemed like one or more of the officials has a wager on the game's outcome. Can a crew of paid officials call that bad a game without some suspicion being thrown at them?
The officiating certainly created more than a two point margin of error. But that is football. Seneca was in.. but years later it doesn't matter to the outside world... You have to wonder if there will be another apology issued...
Enjoy your victim mentality. There were things ISU could’ve controlled and won this game by 10 despite the ****** calls.
I’m all for burning refs in effigy when they are the primary cause of a loss (ie Kansas State last year) but they were only a contributing factor today, the primary cause was ISU shooting themselves in the foot time and time again.
Also WTF are you talking about offsides? There wasn’t a single offsides called in the game.
The decisions on what to review, what not to review, how long reviews took and the confirmed/stands language were all very suspect. In that particular area I'd say it was completely one sided.
The offsides situation was definitely also one sided, ISU jumped a lot and they caught it. WSU jumped a lot and I guess they are allowed to break the rules.
The targeting I'm not even mad about, that's just kind of an F'd up situation for all players, coaches, refs and the entire big picture idea of football. It's an irrational and difficult freight train ISU just happened to be standing in front of tonight.
You say victim. I say facing reality.
If you don't think officiating could have swung 2 points in that game you are out of touch with reality.
I'm not saying we played perfect. Nobody plays perfect. The officials were horrible and it definitely cost ISU much more than WSU. If that's "victim" please sign me up as opposed to being some weak person who needs to live in denial.
There is nothing good you can say about the officiating. Hawks are saying that Peavy should have been ejected... the helmets didn't even touch.... or anything else to the head. They have serious issues...
We'd finish every game with four players and waterboys if tavern Hawks got to evaluate our targeting penalties.
The one thing I will say about the officials is that this crew was completely unprepared to work a game with this much offense. Rather than assign crews arbitrarily based on not being affiliated with either conference they need to also consider style of play. Having refs from a conference where half the teams would still prefer to slam their heads into each other for 60 minutes did no justice to a big 12 team and pac 12 team with big 12 influences.
I never said the refs didn’t effect the score. They may have cost ISU 4 pts, possibly as many as 7. But how many pts did the false starts, ints and fumbles cost ISU? 10-14?
Weakness is having a shitfit and blaming the refs for the end result when if you took care of business it wouldn’t have mattered. Losers do that, and I guarantee Campbell isn’t letting the players blame the refs for this loss.
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I just watched that second targeting call again. Not only was that call complete BS but it lead to a TD ....
