Lineup? Parker at 149?

[Ocy Docy]

Can Parker no longer make 141?

 

[buf87]

Heard that. He is huge. Redding to 141

 

[JM4CY]

Heard that. He is huge. Redding to 141

Who's at 33 then?

 

[buf87]

Ramazan, I assume

 

[JM4CY]

So how close is this then?

25 - Hawaiian
33 - Russian
41 - Redding
49 - Parker
57 - Preying Mantis
65 - David
74 - Broderson/Devine
84 - Coleman
97 - Cuban
Hwt - Schuyler

 

[Cyforce]

Is this a +/- overall?

 

[Land Grant]

Don’t think these lower weight changes will add wins. But I’m not going to say that athletes should starve themselves to death.

 

[Cyforce]

Don’t think these lower weight changes will add wins. But I’m not going to say that athletes should starve themselves to death.

Thanks, who does the move likely push out of the lineup?

Just looked at the roster, Degen.

 

[stuclone]

My best guess:

125: One of the Hawaiians
133: Ramazan
141: Redding
149: Parker or Degen. If Parker loses the wrestle off, I expect he will drop down to 141. Can't count out Cam here either
157: Carr
165: Schumacher or Kraisser
174: Broderson or Devine
184: Coleman
197: Bastiday
Hwt: Schuyler

 

[crablegs]

Don’t think these lower weight changes will add wins. But I’m not going to say that athletes should starve themselves to death.

I actually think the bump everyone from 33-65 will add wins to the lineup. ISU’s weakest weight by far is 165 which this bump completely fixes. You probably end up with a few less wins at 41 and 57, but vastly more from 65 and slightly more at 49.

I think the biggest question here is how Carr would fare at 65 in terms of NCAA placement. Is he big enough to beat someone like Marinelli? I’d like to see a lot of the matchups he’d have at 165, but it would be a tougher weight.

 

[JM4CY]

My best guess:

125: One of the Hawaiians
133: Ramazan
141: Redding
149: Parker or Degen. If Parker loses the wrestle off, I expect he will drop down to 141. Can't count out Cam here either
157: Carr
165: Schumacher or Kraisser
174: Broderson or Devine
184: Coleman
197: Bastiday
Hwt: Schuyler

Is David for sure not going up? I assumed he wasn't but didn't know if Parker bulking up was a part of a greater plan.

 

[WhizzerClone]

I would like to see Carr stay at 57

 

[buf87]

125 Terukina
133 Ramazan
141 Redding
149 Parker/Degen/Robinson
157 Carr
165 Schumacher\ Kraisser
174 Broderson\Devine
184 Coleman
197 Yonger
285 Schuyler

 

[JM4CY]

125 Terukina
133 Ramazan
141 Redding
149 Parker/Degen/Robinson
157 Carr
165 Schumacher\ Kraisser
174 Broderson\Shapiro
184 Coleman
197 Yonger
285 Sculyer(sp)

Well, there you have it.

 

[GetAwesome]

I'll admit I'm not super knowledgeable about roster construction with NCAA wrestling and the pros/cons of changing weight class in terms of team strategy (obviously cutting weight can be a harmful game to play for some), but wouldn't having Degen or Parker stuck behind one another at the same weight class be a waste in duals?

Would Degen and Carr slide up too? Not sure about Degen's frame, but Carr wrestles up at 74kg for freestyle.

 

[buf87]

I think 149 is an easier path to AA than 141 & 157 is easier path to a title than 165

 

[jkbuff98]

Anyone know when wrestle offs are ?

 

[buf87]

Anyone know when wrestle offs are ?

Are they having them or using the Cyclone Open

 

[jkbuff98]

I was thinking maybe a little of both , they did that a couple of years ago when Parker beat Gomez

 

[Land Grant]

I actually think the bump everyone from 33-65 will add wins to the lineup. ISU’s weakest weight by far is 165 which this bump completely fixes. You probably end up with a few less wins at 41 and 57, but vastly more from 65 and slightly more at 49.

I think the biggest question here is how Carr would fare at 65 in terms of NCAA placement. Is he big enough to beat someone like Marinelli? I’d like to see a lot of the matchups he’d have at 165, but it would be a tougher weight.

Certainly moving Carr to 165 would help in the dual schedule. But I worry it would cost him at nationals. I don’t think Degen places as well at 157, or Parker at 149.