LJ and KO only ISU players invited to combine

[cygrads]

Of course there are a handful of programs that are highly regarded when it comes to developing NFL players, and Iowa is one of them. However, this is because Iowa has a lot of guys in the NFL (some drafted, some not).

ISU on the other hand has very few, not because of our name, but because we've had very few players that are capable of playing at that level in our program in the past 10 years.

The bottom line is that for this to change, we need to recruit better players.[/QUOTE]

I have always been amazed how many bowl games we've gotten to (not opening a debate on how good/bad bowls were) considering how little NFL talent we have - to me that is an indicator of good coaching.

 

[NickTheGreat]

I'm still a little upset about Colin Franklin

 

[Jambalaya]

Ok guys, how about this one. Last year Colin Franklin wasn't invited and that Hawk TE was.

If you guys don't think that the name of the program matters on who gets invited, I don't know what to say. We have to get to that point as a program

Iowa's game-day coaching is suspect, judging by their talent the last two year and barely reaching .500 with an average schedule

The NFL knows what they are doing. O'Connell Jr graded out better than Tyler Sash in every pro-day category--lifting, sprints, shuttle, and 3-4 other deciplines, yet one is in the NFL and it ain't O'Connell. Same with VandeVelde vs Lamaak. A fine line between making it or not

 

[ripvdub]

I think there are a lot if college players that can excel on the nfl, but they never get the chance. Players at iowa get the benefit of the doubt for some reason, they've had a few really good players, but most of their players that go into the nfl are no better than good players on any other team. Julian Vandevelde?!? among many others gets drafted? Seriously?

 

[dualthreat]

I bet we would get more players drafted if we had more NFL talent on our teams.

Seriously though, I don't think our players our getting overlooked because they're from isu. Just not that good...

 

[Cincyclone]

Only Johnson and Osemele will be drafted. If I was an NFL HN those are the only two I would draft. I think some people are overvaluing Hicks.

 

[jburke]

Zusevics is projected as highly as a third round pick and is a consensus top ten OT.

I love when you pipe in and are always wrong.....

 

[Cincyclone]

Iowa had Gettis and Zucivecs (sp?) invited. I don't think they are any better than Hicks was. It definitely matters what program you are coming from. Iowa has a tradition of sending quality lineman to the NFL. Iowa State and CPR have to start doing that as well. It will help a ton with recruiting

Zusevics is projected as highly as a third round pick and is a consensus top ten OT.

I've seen Zusevics as a rounds 4-6 guy.

 

[cymaniac17]

Iowa's game-day coaching is suspect, judging by their talent the last two year and barely reaching .500 with an average schedule

The NFL knows what they are doing. O'Connell Jr graded out better than Tyler Sash in every pro-day category--lifting, sprints, shuttle, and 3-4 other deciplines, yet one is in the NFL and it ain't O'Connell. Same with VandeVelde vs Lamaak. A fine line between making it or not

Bad example. Tyler Sash is awful. He is a decent special teams guy but he cant even get in at safety when the giants had like 8 DB's on the IR. O'connell never got a chance even though he was more physically gifted than Sash because Sash is from iowa and had the better career (Albiet the luckiest player ive ever seen). You dont have to have good ball skills to make an NFL punt coverage team.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Here's all the Big 12 players invited.

Big 12 talents headed for the NFL combine - Big 12 Blog - ESPN

Less than us:
KU had 1 and KSU & TTU had no players invited.

 

[Wesley]

Ok guys, how about this one. Last year Colin Franklin wasn't invited and that Hawk TE was.

If you guys don't think that the name of the program matters on who gets invited, I don't know what to say. We have to get to that point as a program

Franklin later had a couple of pro tryouts and did not meet the master requirements.

 

[Wesley]

Here's all the Big 12 players invited.

Big 12 talents headed for the NFL combine - Big 12 Blog - ESPN

Less than us:
KU had 1 and KSU & TTU had no players invited.

KSU had an excuse...most of theirs are coming back.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

Franklin later had a couple of pro tryouts and did not meet the master requirements.

What do you mean "master requirements"?

And if in case anyone didn't know.. Collin is on the Buc's practice squad.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Player Roster

 

[Sigmapolis]

Both of them mocked as early-to-mid second rounders, here:

WalterFootball.com: 2012 NFL Mock Draft: Round 2

Falcons (55th overall) for LJ.
Steelers (56th overall, right afterwards) for KO.

That wouldn't be a bad draft for ISU, but I would still like to see KO rise a bit more...

 

[EnglishCyclone]

Does Darius Reynolds have any chance being signed after the draft?

 

[Cincyclone]

Does Darius Reynolds have any chance being signed after the draft?

A chance because of his size and athleticism, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

[DJK15]

It's not b/c he was good...

Yeah, I mean, just look at all the crappy players that get invited to the NFL combine. It obviously has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with program reputation...

 

[DJK15]

I bet we would get more players drafted if we had more NFL talent on our teams.

Seriously though, I don't think our players our getting overlooked because they're from isu. Just not that good...

/thread

 

[cy1010]

FWIW, Hicks and Benton were both given grades of 30/100 by espn.com's draft evaluators.

 

[Aclone]

Does Darius Reynolds have any chance being signed after the draft?

If he does well on Pro Day for the scouts, he has a chance of being drafted.