Looking back...Could things have been handled differently? (long)

allfourcy

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Look, I know this has been discussed way before, but its creeping back into my mind now that so many games have been on TV, after following lots of recruiting last April/May transfer season, and watching a lot of these early season games, is there any way things could have been handled differently/better with the Bulls/Fred timing situation? Anton Grady at Wichita State, Horne at Illinois, Harris at Auburn, Bielfeldt at Indiana, Olivier at Okie State, just to name a few of the several immediately eligible guys that were out there.... all role playing front court players that are making impacts and putting up pts/rebounds on their teams and could have made our team even stronger. Its not like they were swept up by blue bloods. I hold no ill will about Fred leaving to the NBA, and truly cherish his time as our coach, but I really believe we could have gotten a needed piece to complete this team if a head coach had been in place sooner and not so much uncertainty. But it still gets my goat that we were put in that position. (And no I don't believe he contemplated until the very end as to whether he was going to be the Bulls coach, other than the Bulls red tape). I know, let it go, right? But if we have several games like Colorado in which we fight foul trouble, and eventually find it to be a main cause of losing a game, I will refuse to blame Prohm. Because in the back of my mind, we were robbed of an opportunity long before he arrived.
 

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The team is 2-0 and could be headed to the top 5 of the polls next week... So I would say the timing of this thread is not optimal.
 

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Look, I know this has been discussed way before, but its creeping back into my mind now that so many games have been on TV, after following lots of recruiting last April/May transfer season, and watching a lot of these early season games, is there any way things could have been handled differently/better with the Bulls/Fred timing situation? Anton Grady at Wichita State, Horne at Illinois, Harris at Auburn, Bielfeldt at Indiana, Olivier at Okie State, just to name a few of the several immediately eligible guys that were out there.... all role playing front court players that are making impacts and putting up pts/rebounds on their teams and could have made our team even stronger. Its not like they were swept up by blue bloods. I hold no ill will about Fred leaving to the NBA, and truly cherish his time as our coach, but I really believe we could have gotten a needed piece to complete this team if a head coach had been in place sooner and not so much uncertainty. But it still gets my goat that we were put in that position. (And no I don't believe he contemplated until the very end as to whether he was going to be the Bulls coach, other than the Bulls red tape). I know, let it go, right? But if we have several games like Colorado in which we fight foul trouble, and eventually find it to be a main cause of losing a game, I will refuse to blame Prohm. Because in the back of my mind, we were robbed of an opportunity long before he arrived.


I thought ISU got a transfer from Marquette that will join the team at semester.. Isn't he a high end transfer?
 

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I was going to blame Matt Thomas if we exit the tournament early again, but I think I'm with you. Let's blame Fred for not getting hired sooner.
 

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I have said the same thing many times. Fred used and abused ISU. Good times were great but the end sucked. Icing on the cake was Fred's final press conference after the fact where he rubbed our noses in all of the other jobs he flirted with. I can't believe people bought that garbage he was spewing that day. I Feel bad for Pollard he had to put up with Fred looking at 8 or more jobs in his short time at ISU. He held ISU hostage every chance he got and I am sure that got old quickly for Pollard.
 

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Fred did the right thing by telling players he didn't know how long he would be at ISU. It was fair to the kids, but it did set ISU back a bit. The flip side is, now the new staff can go out and get they players they want instead of having kids that don't want to play for the new staff or players that don't fit.

The way this team was built was to win now. It worked, but made it hard to build it for the future. Who know what will happen down the road. There is a foundation built and Fred left the program a lot better than it was when he got here.
 

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I have said the same thing many times. Fred used and abused ISU. Good times were great but the end sucked. Icing on the cake was Fred's final press conference after the fact where he rubbed our noses in all of the other jobs he flirted with. I can't believe people bought that garbage he was spewing that day. I Feel bad for Pollard he had to put up with Fred looking at 8 or more jobs in his short time at ISU. He held ISU hostage every chance he got and I am sure that got old quickly for Pollard.
You're funny.
 

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I have said the same thing many times. Fred used and abused ISU. Good times were great but the end sucked. Icing on the cake was Fred's final press conference after the fact where he rubbed our noses in all of the other jobs he flirted with. I can't believe people bought that garbage he was spewing that day. I Feel bad for Pollard he had to put up with Fred looking at 8 or more jobs in his short time at ISU. He held ISU hostage every chance he got and I am sure that got old quickly for Pollard.

See OP, this is the type of dumb **** you invite by starting this thread. Congrats. Your post was bad and you should feel bad for emboldening dumb **** trolls like this.
 

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I have said the same thing many times. Fred used and abused ISU. Good times were great but the end sucked. Icing on the cake was Fred's final press conference after the fact where he rubbed our noses in all of the other jobs he flirted with. I can't believe people bought that garbage he was spewing that day. I Feel bad for Pollard he had to put up with Fred looking at 8 or more jobs in his short time at ISU. He held ISU hostage every chance he got and I am sure that got old quickly for Pollard.

WHOA........Look, this is not the intention of my thread. Just wondered how situation could have been different, not a bash Fred post. And yes, I'm still optimistic about our great team.
 

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The program was a mess when Fred got here, was a perennial bottom dweller and never sniffed the NCAA tournament or NIT for that matter (under McDermott). He turned it around seemingly with easy. We were lucky to have him here, even though it was just for 5 years. Don't get the bitterness of some toward him, lets move on. Chicago wanted to wait to announce his hire, not much anyone could do about that.
 

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See OP, this is the type of dumb **** you invite by starting this thread. Congrats. Your post was bad and you should feel bad for emboldening dumb **** trolls like this.

Apparently. Guess I get tired of hearing/seeing how many guys come off the bench for some of these teams. Time to move on. How do we delete the entire thread?
 

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Looking back man, we really handled that Larry Eustachy firing the wrong way. How will we ever recover for that???


Let it go. Let it go...
 

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