Lunch time question...who is the better PG

[tazclone]

Below are stats for two PGs which do people think is the better PG?
I will tell you who the players arelater

player one
PPG-12.5
FGA/G-10.8
RPG-4.5
TO-4.0
APG-6.3
SPG-2.6
FG%-.388
3pt%-.327
FT%-.685
FTA-4.9/game

player two
PPG-13.15
FGA/G-12.1
RPG-3.15
TO-2.95
APG-5.5
SPG-1.5
FG%-.428
3pt%-.325
FTA-3.7/game
FT%-.749

 

[TitanClone]

Assists/TO would be useful.

 

[CYVADER]

Player 1 is Lucious i'm guessing? who is Player 2??

edit-guessing DG's career #'s for player 2

 

[CycloneYoda]

Assists/TO would be useful.

Now this made my laugh.

 

[tazclone]

Assists/TO would be useful.

TOs are included now. Don't have time to figure the ratio

 

[LindenCy]

Player 1 is Lucious i'm guessing? who is Player 2??

edit-guessing DG's career #'s for player 2

Pretty sure that player 1 is an all time ISU great, and player 2 is possibly a contemporary of his? not sure on 2.

 

[Cypwr]

TOs are included now. Don't have time to figure the ratio

Offense is about the same. Would depend on type of offense being used and Defense.

 

[Yes13]

Player one is a better passer and defender, but sucked at shooting. Tinsley?
two is probably Diante

 

[tazclone]

Player 1 is Lucious i'm guessing? who is Player 2??

edit-guessing DG's career #'s for player 2

I am not asking you to guess who just vote

 

[Tre4ISU]

The question was which is better, not who are they.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Player one is a better passer and defender, but sucked at shooting. Tinsley?
two is probably Diante

I wouldn't necessarily assume he sucked at shooting - his % could be affected by taking a disproportionate amount of 3 pointers - and considering his 3-point % isn't that far off from his overall FG %, this could be the case.

That being said, personally, I would rather have a PG that was better at distributing, and playing defense than putting up tons of points. I've always viewed points from a PG to be "gravy".

 

[BD4CY]

Now this made my laugh.

I laughed for a second, but then I realized the original post was edited...

 

[Yes13]

The question was which is better, not who are they.

I just don't want to fall in to this trap lol.

 

[LindenCy]

Statistically the two are pretty even. Slight scoring edge to #2, but more shots taken, and steal and assist edges to #1. Shooting percentage is not a huge deal for these 2, and #1 gets to the line more.

 

[timappelgate]

1 is Tinsley.

 

[BD4CY]

I don't care who is better. However, I do like guessing who's who.

I think player 1 is Tinsley (from his 2 years at ISU), and player 2 is DG's junior and senior years. No way those are DG's career numbers.

 

[Cyclone1985]

2.6 steals a game? thats huge in a tight game.

I also think a valuable stat would be team W/L, because this would show a PG's leadership and effectiveness to make the players around him better. Much like a QB making is receiver's better. I would say Holloway was one of our best PG's, not because of his numbers, but because of his court awareness, making the players around him better and his leadership.

 

[Ficklone02]

I think stats can be overrated. WATCHING a player play with my own two eyes is really the only thing, for me, that determines what I think. If the names were provided I'd probably be able to say right away what I thought.

 

[tazclone]

2.6 steals a game? thats huge in a tight game.

I also think a valuable stat would be team W/L, because this would show a PG's leadership and effectiveness to make the players around him better. Much like a QB making is receiver's better. I would say Holloway was one of our best PG's, not because of his numbers, but because of his court awareness, making the players around him better and his leadership.

I did not include W/L because that also relies on the talent around you and requires having a complete team. Is Koby Bryant a better player when he has less talent around him and has better stats or is he a better player when his stats are down and has a complete team around him? IMO- He is the same player but he wins because of who is around him. Was Jordan better before Pippen or with him?

 

[CtownCyclone]

I think stats can be overrated. WATCHING a player play with my own two eyes is really the only thing, for me, that determines what I think. If the names were provided I'd probably be able to say right away what I thought.

The names would bias your opinion, which is why I'm guessing it's a blind poll.