Matt Campbell postgame quote

isufanz1

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Let's start with playing better this week than last week. Some of us expected that between Baylor and KU......didn't happen. Then again between KU and KSU.......didn't happen. Should we not expect it between KSU and UT or between any other game?

Also........finishing above .500 every year. Especially in conference. Because being happy with anything less is for what did he say......."s*** programs"?

Coaching is a what have you done for me lately profession....sorry. I'm sure he knows that better than anyone.

So unless his early success was an accident we reasonably expect to be above .500 in conference every year.

There is a lot of football yet to be played and that reasonable goal could still be reached. But right now I'm not seeing it.
Majority of fans seem to have forgotten CMC's own quote about .500 teams. Given this season will be at best .500 (and that is very unlikely at this point), we will have 3 out of the last 4 yrs basically at .500 (7-6 and 6-7 considered .500) or worse. That is not a picture of a 'building program', it is a picture of a stalled program.
 

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You’re picking the dumbest argument. I think most understand scoring 0-1 td a game isn’t a recipe for long term success. Sure, I’d be happy if we happened to win games 6-3 while going 8-5, but that doesn’t happen anywhere.
Well, it's pretty damned close to that at Iowa, but that's not us.
 

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Read below on Prohm. Posted at the same time you did I think.
As for the rest of that, the fans werent who got Prohm hired. Fred made a huge push to Pollard and Jamie saw a good fit. TJ wasnt ready for the job yet either. The UNLV and South Dakota State jobs taught him a ton

Jamie caved to fan pressure. Iowa State President got involved. Bottom line. Pollard was pushed to go with Prohm. It was evident he sucked and couldn’t coach. Players won despite Prohm. But underachieved IMO. Fans should not make decisions.
 

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Here's a counter balance to the negativity: we had 3 losses to teams (now ranked in the Coaches' Top 25) by a total of 11 points. We are right there with those teams. Playing at Texas will be a big challenge, but I'm glad we played our last 3 games close going into it.
I think that's why everyone is so frustrated. If our offense was just bad instead of pathetic the season looks a lot different. Same goes for special teams. We've tried as hard as we can to lose and we're still keeping games close.
 
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A step back wasn't shocking yes, but this aww shucks we lost 3 really close games, people need to chill is dumb. The Baylor loss is whatever, they were the better team in the second half. But to loose the last two games against teams that you should beat, even with a crappy offense, is something that should create pressure on the coaches to change. There needs to be some sort of change. Having an attitude of it could be worse or remember when it was worse is a slippery slope back to the basement.

Baylor's season last year is something that Iowa State could of had / should of had with a consistent competent offense. This year while breaking in new faces, should at least have a floor of 7-5. We will be lucky to be 6-6 and should be 5-1 at the current moment. All this "growth" that we here of every week is starting to fall on def ears. " Talk is cheap" Doers Do and they need to start doing something to change.
One thing I was hoping for in Campbell's post game presser was that the coaches were continuing to develop the other wide receivers besides X and that it was very important that they continue to do so.
 

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Some were critical of Gilbert again KS, IMO most were not. MANY were critical of Campbell's decision not to go for it. If he's such a player's coach, after all, he had to know that Gilbert was rattled that game. Yet he chose to play for a tie, knowing that. Then a week later he's b***hy at the fans, when his staff has just coached another stinker? Sucks to be on the hot seat, sure. But when a coach blames fans for anything, it's the coach that needs to get right.
Was Gilbert rattled?

I haven't seen Campbell, Gilbert or anyone with inside the team say Gilbert was rattled.

He misses 3 FG's in one game. Other than KU he is 8-8 in ISU's other 5 games and 5-5 going into the KU game.

So in the moment, why wouldn't Campbell be confident Gilbert makes the game tying FG? A kicker going 1-3, doesn't automatically mean he's going to miss the next one.
 

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Jamie caved to fan pressure. Iowa State President got involved. Bottom line. Pollard was pushed to go with Prohm. It was evident he sucked and couldn’t coach. Players won despite Prohm. But underachieved IMO. Fans should not make decisions.
So Pollard was forced into hiring Prohm but he didnt want him. Then he proceeded to give him a contract extension after an epic collapse mid season, support him in the media multiple times including the announcement of his firing, and wait a season too long to fire him when it was clear he wasnt the dude for years before that?

What?
 
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I was just responding to the guy that said he wanted touchdowns and not wins.
I felt like you were looking for more than just 'scoring more points than the opponent', but it appears I gave you too much credit. I will explain it better so you can understand.

In football, touchdowns are worth more points than field goals (6 vs 3). After the touchdown is scored, you can either kick the extra point which is worth 1 point, or go for a 2 point conversion which is obviously worth 2 points. Most times the team will just kick the extra point.

Now, while getting points from a field goal is sometimes nice, generally the goal is to score as many points as you can, which is why a touchdown is the preferred choice of the offense. The more points you score, the chances of winning are improved. In the case of the last two games, we only scored 1 touchdown which unfortunately was not enough to win either game. This may be a controversial statement, but I think if we had scored more touchdowns in each of these games, we probably would have won both. I hope this better explains my position.
 

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I felt like you were looking for more than just 'scoring more points than the opponent', but it appears I gave you too much credit. I will explain it better so you can understand.

In football, touchdowns are worth more points than field goals (6 vs 3). After the touchdown is scored, you can either kick the extra point which is worth 1 point, or go for a 2 point conversion which is obviously worth 2 points. Most times the team will just kick the extra point.

Now, while getting points from a field goal is sometimes nice, generally the goal is to score as many points as you can, which is why a touchdown is the preferred choice of the offense. The more points you score, the chances of winning are improved. In the case of the last two games, we only scored 1 touchdown which unfortunately was not enough to win either game. This may be a controversial statement, but I think if we had scored more touchdowns in each of these games, we probably would have won both. I hope this better explains my position.
It does not.
 

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Was Gilbert rattled?

I haven't seen Campbell, Gilbert or anyone with inside the team say Gilbert was rattled.

He misses 3 FG's in one game. Other than KU he is 8-8 in ISU's other 5 games and 5-5 going into the KU game.

So in the moment, why wouldn't Campbell be confident Gilbert makes the game tying FG? A kicker going 1-3, doesn't automatically mean he's going to miss the next one.
Well, he had just missed two (uncharacteristically, as you say) -- and the last one was off by the broad side of a barn.

Moreover, as others have stated a made field goal doesn't win the game anyway. But that's a different point.
 

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Like Blum said on the podcast, if he'd just said "some of" or "parts of" I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I don’t really care either way but the fact that he’s talking about what happened last week and specifically something that happened off the field LAST WEEK is what is troubling to me. Total deflection on losing in embarrassing fashion to KSU. Blame anything but the fans please.
 
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Was Gilbert rattled?

I haven't seen Campbell, Gilbert or anyone with inside the team say Gilbert was rattled.

He misses 3 FG's in one game. Other than KU he is 8-8 in ISU's other 5 games and 5-5 going into the KU game.

So in the moment, why wouldn't Campbell be confident Gilbert makes the game tying FG? A kicker going 1-3, doesn't automatically mean he's going to miss the next one.

2 doinks off the same post that don’t go through + the absolute amateur attempt on the third = rattled. No getting around that.

I get what Campbell was doing, he was taking a chance that if he makes the last one the confidence is through the roof and he thinks he has his FG situation sured up going forward for the rest of the season.

I don’t think he calculated the downside risk of shitting away a winnable game against a ranked opponent being lost on the kicking game causes a spiral out of control leading to a potential multi-game losing streak.
 

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I don’t have much of an issue with CMC giving a little jab to those fans that **** on Gilbert. I do have an issue with when he decided to give the jab.

It was pure deflecting and obviously he got caught up in his own emotions. I’m sure he’s reflected and realized his mistake. There were much better ways to praise Gilbert in that moment.
 

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Some were critical of Gilbert again KS, IMO most were not. MANY were critical of Campbell's decision not to go for it. If he's such a player's coach, after all, he had to know that Gilbert was rattled that game. Yet he chose to play for a tie, knowing that. Then a week later he's b***hy at the fans, when his staff has just coached another stinker? Sucks to be on the hot seat, sure. But when a coach blames fans for anything, it's the coach that needs to get right.

Hot Seat? Good grief.
 

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Well, he had just missed two (uncharacteristically, as you say) -- and the last one was off by the broad side of a barn.

Moreover, as others have stated a made field goal doesn't win the game anyway. But that's a different point.
If Campbell goes for it on 4th down that doesn't win the game either. If we make it on 4th, it just means the FG to tie the game is closer.

But since he was rattled, guess your saying even kicking a closer FG then wasn't an option.

Being a Monday morning QB is great because there are right & wrong decisions.

Campbell's decision wasn't wrong just because the outcome was bad for ISU.

I wonder what the analytics guys would say the right move was?