Men's Basketball Eligibility Next Year

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Perhaps Blum will pay Milan more than a second round selection will
 
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For those of you saying Milan might go: he's not getting drafted. The dude hasn't shown he has NBA athleticism yet. The jump shot and fadeaway turnaround shot are great, but until he's quicker and more athletic with it, he's going to stay in college. This year, he hasn't shown any flashes of being NBA ready. He's going to be here at least one more year.
Agree, he's not a super athletic prospect but at the same time he's not shooting a high volume of shots either that might increase his press.
 

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Is Moore the only incoming freshman designated specifically as a PG? Also not sure how much reliance there might be on first-year augmenting point to develop behind Lipsey, so maybe we're seeking transfer at that spot? Not sure if that's hard to find in portal, maybe combo guard is more realistic?

As you can tell, I'm not a recruiting expert.
Moore is a true PG

Batemon is a combo guard - from the little I've seen, he reminds me a lot of Keshon, where he can play off the ball primarily, but on the ball when needed

Mitchell is a slashing wing - good athlete, plus defender but limited offensively at this point. His comp to me is Watson, but hopefully better offensive upside. He probably ends up as a '4'.

Toure is basically an unknown, but is considered another combo guard - I'm guessing he's more of a project though.

This was TJ's quote on signing day:

"With Keshon and Cut being seniors, definitely, need to address in the backcourt our ability to defend, our ability to score, playmaking, point guard play," Otzelberger said. "All of those things, I felt like, that was one huge priority for us. And I feel like Killyan, Macari and Jamarion have those attributes and traits."

We haven't really seen it since Lipsey, and that was just by dumb luck, but I think next year we may actually have major contributions from a freshman. I would put my money on Batemon potentially being in the rotation at the beginning of the year.
 

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Moore is a true PG

Batemon is a combo guard - from the little I've seen, he reminds me a lot of Keshon, where he can play off the ball primarily, but on the ball when needed

Mitchell is a slashing wing - good athlete, plus defender but limited offensively at this point. His comp to me is Watson, but hopefully better offensive upside. He probably ends up as a '4'.

Toure is basically an unknown, but is considered another combo guard - I'm guessing he's more of a project though.

This was TJ's quote on signing day:



We haven't really seen it since Lipsey, and that was just by dumb luck, but I think next year we may actually have major contributions from a freshman. I would put my money on Batemon potentially being in the rotation at the beginning of the year.
Have you seen Mitchell play???

He's not like DWat at all - the kid is a big-time scorer. He was one of the leading scorers in EYBL this summer and just passed 2,000 career points in high school.

 

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There's no reason they can't be damn good next year with...

Senior Tamin
Senior Presidents
Heise and Nojus step into the primary guard roles
Watson for depth

Plus maybe...

Milan as a junior? I'm assuming he's gone to the NBA but maybe not?
Hopefully some stud guard transfer wants to come in to replace Gilbert and Jones?
Maybe Batemon or one of the other freshman has an instant impact?
One of the other guys on the roster (e.g., Rock) really "clicks?"

They don't need much for next year as it stands. Very high floor.

A few key additions could keep the ceiling as high as it is this year (e.g., legit FF and NC contender).

No reason TJ can't keep this rollin' from there...
Enjoy these times, folks. These are the "good times." Pretty extraordinary what TJ has accomplished from where we were when he arrived.

Edit: and I like our odds to keep things rolling next year.
 

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I think he needs to develop a couple go-to moves to free himself up. Seems like teams hang a defender close enough to him to be in the vicinity at the catch. If he could drive past enough of them, they couldn't guard so close, so maybe add that plus a step back.
That's a good point. While he's a monster at the turnaround shot he doesn't really show that he's capable of a step back shot. I wonder if he has quick enough feet for this to be a go to move for him. His feet don't seem super quick, so maybe that's why we don't really see him do it ever. The NBA loves a good, quick step back shot. Milan will need to show he's capable of that at a high level before scouts really consider him to be NBA material. He also needs to show he's a better driver and finisher. I forgot which game it was (I'm thinking it was Marquette), but he went from the corner and took it in hard for a dunk. We need to see more of that.
 
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In regards to Momcilovic...the dude is shooting 47% from 3 this year! Come on guys!

What do you want from the guy? More assertiveness? Sure. TJ is telling him to HUNT his shot. In Maui, Gilbert was playing like a 1st team All-American and was dominating the ball (as he should have). We have one of the best pure scoring guards in the country in Jones. Jefferson is absolutely emerging and is going to demand the ball. Jackson scores on the block at an extremely high level.

This team is LOADED. Milan will have his games when he goes off. He is not going to score consistently like Niang on a night to night basis though. WE DO NOT NEED HIM TO!
 

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In regards to Momcilovic...the dude is shooting 47% from 3 this year! Come on guys!

What do you want from the guy? More assertiveness? Sure. TJ is telling him to HUNT his shot. In Maui, Gilbert was playing like a 1st team All-American and was dominating the ball (as he should have). We have one of the best pure scoring guards in the country in Jones. Jefferson is absolutely emerging and is going to demand the ball. Jackson scores on the block at an extremely high level.

This team is LOADED. Milan will have his games when he goes off. He is not going to score consistently like Niang on a night to night basis though. WE DO NOT NEED HIM TO!
Are you suggesting that fans are down on Milan, and are not giving him his credit for being a very good shooter and a key contributor to this team?
 

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In regards to Momcilovic...the dude is shooting 47% from 3 this year! Come on guys!

What do you want from the guy? More assertiveness? Sure. TJ is telling him to HUNT his shot. In Maui, Gilbert was playing like a 1st team All-American and was dominating the ball (as he should have). We have one of the best pure scoring guards in the country in Jones. Jefferson is absolutely emerging and is going to demand the ball. Jackson scores on the block at an extremely high level.

This team is LOADED. Milan will have his games when he goes off. He is not going to score consistently like Niang on a night to night basis though. WE DO NOT NEED HIM TO!
that is all true

I think the point is, as the 3rd or 4th offensive option he's less likely to leave early for NBA
 

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In regards to Momcilovic...the dude is shooting 47% from 3 this year! Come on guys!

What do you want from the guy? More assertiveness? Sure. TJ is telling him to HUNT his shot. In Maui, Gilbert was playing like a 1st team All-American and was dominating the ball (as he should have). We have one of the best pure scoring guards in the country in Jones. Jefferson is absolutely emerging and is going to demand the ball. Jackson scores on the block at an extremely high level.

This team is LOADED. Milan will have his games when he goes off. He is not going to score consistently like Niang on a night to night basis though. WE DO NOT NEED HIM TO!
Agreed and a good part of the reason Gilbert gets into the lane at will is because we have shooters to space the floor.

Basketball - both offense and defense - is complimentary in this way.

The “pick your poison” aspect of our offense this year is why we’re so much more efficient in this end compared to years past.

This is also why Tamins accuracy from deep is so critical.
 

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Are you suggesting that fans are down on Milan, and are not giving him his credit for being a very good shooter and a key contributor to this team?
I mean, yes, there seems to be a negative tone surrounding his play so far this season. I guess I dont understand it.

This team is not going to struggle to score. Period. In crunch time, in close games, when each possession is critical, I think you are going to see Lipsey/Gilbert/Jones/Heise/Jefferson in there to close out games. That is our most versatile defensive roster. They also score at a really high clip. It isn't a knock on Momcilovic or Jackson. To steal a term from baseball, that is TJs closer. He rarely uses that lineup configuration until it is time to close out the game and throw on the strangle hold.
 

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In regards to Momcilovic...the dude is shooting 47% from 3 this year! Come on guys!

What do you want from the guy? More assertiveness? Sure. TJ is telling him to HUNT his shot. In Maui, Gilbert was playing like a 1st team All-American and was dominating the ball (as he should have). We have one of the best pure scoring guards in the country in Jones. Jefferson is absolutely emerging and is going to demand the ball. Jackson scores on the block at an extremely high level.

This team is LOADED. Milan will have his games when he goes off. He is not going to score consistently like Niang on a night to night basis though. WE DO NOT NEED HIM TO!
I really like Milan and I agree that we don't need him to be the leading scorer this year. I think what it feels like with him is he'll fill it up one game and hit 4-5 3's then he'll go 0'fer the next. I think what we'd like to see is a little more consistency game to game.
 
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that is all true

I think the point is, as the 3rd or 4th offensive option he's less likely to leave early for NBA
That's what I gleaned from the analysis, not that Milan isn't contributing, but how it might affect him being NBA prospect, or whether he's able to showcase it with so many other options available on offense.

"Good problem to have" from ISU perspective.
 

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I think Milan needs to slow down just a bit. In a few of these bigger games he seems to be rushing a tad when he maybe feels obligated to contribute. Think he needs to slow down, let the game come to him and I think good things will happen. Other than that, he's still playing well and shooting it at a ridiculous clip overall.
 
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I really like Milan and I agree that we don't need him to be the leading scorer this year. I think what it feels like with him is he'll fill it up one game and hit 4-5 3's then he'll go 0'fer the next. I think what we'd like to see is a little more consistency game to game.
He has scored in double figures in 7 of our 10 games and is shooting 47% from three. I guess what I am trying to say is the guy isn't going to drop 12+ every night out. We are too deep and have too many guys that are going to have their night.

In the Marquette and Iowa games, they played extremely small. That is going to be a rough matchup for Milan on the defensive end and for that reason he will see fewer minutes in those types of matchups.