MSU fans discussing new coach. Campbell on their shortlist. Funny stuff
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i find it funny that people talk about jobs like money is the driving force. the difference between 4 million and 5 million is a lot in terms of actual dollars, but not a lot in terms of lifestyle difference. i doubt CMC will be intrigued by leaving for simply more money, hell, his house now is nice but not "OMG athlete millionaire nice!" he doesn't strike me as a guy who needs the flashy things.
Campbell has a different pedigree than Hoiberg, and while I didn't consider it when Hoiberg was here, it makes total sense that Ames wasn't the dream job for Hoiberg that the media/fanbase propped it up to be.
Iowa State and Ames might not be the dream job for Campbell, but as of now, it's pretty ******* nice. After 4 years, these are his players, his coaches, and this is his program.
As I've said a million times, TV money has changed everything for programs like Iowa State. While it's just icing on the cake for the big boys, it makes a huge difference for programs who need all the help they can get to keep up with the Joneses. We're now able to pay our coaches competitive salaries and build competitive facilities. While the extra cash might give LSU players sleeping pods, it gives ISU players a state-of-the-art weight room, which is far more important for their development.
Throw in an above average staff that can recruit, develop players, and scheme, and you have what Campbell is building at ISU. Yes, the ceiling is higher at Florida State or Notre Dame or wherever, but Campbell feels he can win big (conf title) here. That wasn't possible until recently, and it will allow ISU to keep him for at least a few more years. It will be at that point that we/he can more accurately assess a ceiling to his tenure.
Iowa State and Ames might not be the dream job for Campbell, but as of now, it's pretty ******* nice. After 4 years, these are his players, his coaches, and this is his program.
As I've said a million times, TV money has changed everything for programs like Iowa State. While it's just icing on the cake for the big boys, it makes a huge difference for programs who need all the help they can get to keep up with the Joneses. We're now able to pay our coaches competitive salaries and build competitive facilities. While the extra cash might give LSU players sleeping pods, it gives ISU players a state-of-the-art weight room, which is far more important for their development.
Throw in an above average staff that can recruit, develop players, and scheme, and you have what Campbell is building at ISU. Yes, the ceiling is higher at Florida State or Notre Dame or wherever, but Campbell feels he can win big (conf title) here. That wasn't possible until recently, and it will allow ISU to keep him for at least a few more years. It will be at that point that we/he can more accurately assess a ceiling to his tenure.
Interesting. I imagine this is the same thing, Toledo said, when he was rumored to go to Iowa State.
You have quite the imagination.
I imagine Jason Candle disagrees with you.
There’s a huge, huge difference between going from a G5 to a P5, and going from a P5 that you have rolling to a P5 that needs rebuilding and a miracle to be better than 3rd in their division.
Reading this thread has semi-changed my opinion on Campbell to MSU. I’ve thought it was one of the B10 jobs he would take a call and interview with. But if Florida State and USC are likely going to call, I’m guessing he isn’t going to Michigan State.
I also don’t see him leaving for Florida State but how do you not take that call? It’s a top 10 job in college football.
But, for any team, it’s going to cost a fortune to hire Campbell away. $6 million buyout + $5+ million salary for a minimum of 6 years + paying your current coach’s buyout. Jamie did as good of a job as he could with our finances to tie up Campbell.
I also don’t see him leaving for Florida State but how do you not take that call? It’s a top 10 job in college football.
But, for any team, it’s going to cost a fortune to hire Campbell away. $6 million buyout + $5+ million salary for a minimum of 6 years + paying your current coach’s buyout. Jamie did as good of a job as he could with our finances to tie up Campbell.
I don't know if I'd say FSU is that prestigious anymore.
Was Bama a top-10 job prior to Saban? USC prior to Carroll?
Its only problem is it’s an ACC school in SEC land. But it’s set up to be the OU of the ACC.
It's a comparison, that is all. Being a college coach and getting a shot at your pro dream job(with no prior pro coaching experience). Going from running all aspects of the program to having to deal with owners and GM's. Deciding to come back to college coaching instead of finding another NBA position. Sometimes the grass is not greener in the pros and being a successful college coach can be just as satisfying. Does this answer your statement?
Prestigious, maybe not. But its still a Top 10 job when you consider history, pay, recruiting, etc.
From Chicagoland, lived in L.A. for 15, S.F. for 15, MN for 2 and now WV for 5. If there's one thing I've learned, 'every place' uniquely has wonderful things no other does. And for all the complaining about Iowa's weather, it's the thing I missed most while on the west coast.
What I find so mind boggling is how many people live in the past. It's what lies ahead which is the most important thing in life.
Also, I haven't had a single response to "what does it take to become a blue-blood?". I'd fully expected a response, or at the very least, some snarky sarcastic response, but none. So, either no one really knows or there really is no such thing. Is it 'titles'? 'money'? Cart before the horse? If it's being on top, are they 'demoted' when they're no longer consistently good (ala USC, UCLA)? All I do know, is I can never accept mediocre acceptance of Iowa State's status. The ceiling is as high for ISU as any other university. And, because I truly feel the fan base is more solid than most, we're already half way there.
Not sure who has access to 247, but I don’t
https://247sports.com/college/flori...aching-Search-What-Im-hearing-1121-138949277/
https://247sports.com/college/flori...aching-Search-What-Im-hearing-1121-138949277/
