NCAA agrees to unlimited transfers

[Mr Janny]

Like it or not, people need to accept that large parts of the NCAA model, as we came to know it, don't have a legal leg to stand on. The NCAA isn't capitulating in these court cases, because they're ignorant or cowardly. They're doing it because they know they are going to lose.

 

[BACyclone]

Yeah this is where we area heading. Stay in school forever.

 

[JEFF420]

9th year Dr. M.D. PhD QB is gonna be lit

 

[JM4CY]

Jorbo on his way back to CHA?

He left?

 

[BoomerClone]

I hope there will one day be some level of student athlete preserved. Now, it’s employee athletes

 

[WooBadger18]

College football reporters are basically useless so I haven't seen this discussed, but in this new world where athletic departments (or whatever remains of collectives, when the dust settles) are signing athletes to deals, wouldn't athletes be giving up their right to transfer for the length of that contract? Wouldn't that limit some freedom of movement, or at least force the athlete to give up NIL rights if they leave?

That said, we all know that contracts in college athletics aren't worth the paper they're printed on and have only traditionally been enforced in one direction, and I don't expect that will change in this new world.

I think the problem you run into is what is the enforcement mechanism? Because if non-competes remain illegal, then it seems like colleges would have a difficult time putting penalties into their contracts

 

[WooBadger18]

I hope there will one day be some level of student athlete preserved. Now, it’s employee athletes

I think you’ll still have actual student athletes below the FBS or FCS.

And I think either way the big conferences will still require them to be students. Because “students representing their schools” is a major appeal of college sports to plenty of people, and allowing them to not be students kills that appeal

 

[Cyhig]

Pretty soon Perry Ellis will gain more eligibility and return to Kansas

 

[AuH2O]

I think the problem you run into is what is the enforcement mechanism? Because if non-competes remain illegal, then it seems like colleges would have a difficult time putting penalties into their contracts

I don't think any of that is hard any more. There was certainly a concern about signing "NIL" contracts that required a student to play on a certain team because that's a pretty clear pay for play deal and people were trying to half assed make it look like actual NIL.

Now that there is so much precedent that it's purely pay for play, there should be zero legal limitation from a company or collective putting terms in a contract making it subject to still being on Team X and invalidating contracts if they transfer. That's just simple contract law that's about as easy to enforce as you can imagine. There's no NCAA or conference or anybody else needed to referee or enforce anything. It can all just be subject to contract law.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I hope there will one day be some level of student athlete preserved. Now, it’s employee athletes

Division III will always have it's place and I don't think any of this is going to greatly affect Division II.

Division I, however, needs to drop the term immediately.

 

[Jer]

Please, for the love of God, just don't allow mid-year transfers to be eligible. If that happens you may as well just shut the whole thing down.

That’s really a red line for me. It wouldn’t change my love of ISU and watching them, but you’d have the biggest clusterfuck of huge dollar free agency movement for some of the big dogs that get early injuries, identify weak spots, etc. They would likely target our tier of players doing well to raid from.

 

[ScottyP]

Maybe Kayden Proctor can come to ISU. Bama and Iowa have already paid his NIL at this point.

 

[clone52]

Division III will always have it's place and I don't think any of this is going to greatly affect Division II.

Division I, however, needs to drop the term immediately.

Why? Where in the term "student athlete" does it imply unpaid? Now if you toss in amateur, yeah, the amateur part is definitely gone. But "student athlete" is still perfectly acceptable unless they remove requirements to actually take classes.

I don't really understand why people are so bent out of shape on this? We are still going to love the Cyclones and love the players on the teams. Maybe there will be more player churn, which kinda sucks, but it will make those that stick around even more special. Maybe Iowa State won't afford to keep up with the big boys, but they will figure things out.

 

[ClonesFTW]

Please, for the love of God, just don't allow mid-year transfers to be eligible. If that happens you may as well just shut the whole thing down.

That would be the end of being a collegiate athletics "fanatic" for me.

 

[jbhtexas]

Not sure is this has been posted before...

Meet the man who thinks he 'screwed up' college football with a Supreme Court win

Andrew Coats, the lawyer who convinced the Supreme Court in 1984 to allow universities to maximize football revenue, leading to a sweeping upheaval today, looks back with regret on the landmark case he successfully argued.

www.nbcnews.com

This is the landmark bad jurisprudence that started the whole college sports mess (as well as a number of others). The NCAA is a private institution run by its membership (the college presidents), and membership is totally voluntary. This CFA issue back in the 1980's was basically a policy disagreement between a minority and majority of the members. There was nothing stopping OU, UGA, and the other big dogs/like minded schools from leaving, starting a competing association, and showing that their paradigm was the better one. There was no reason for the courts to stick their noses into the policy matters of a private organization.

 

[cyclones500]

Please, for the love of God, just don't allow mid-year transfers to be eligible. If that happens you may as well just shut the whole thing down.

Yep. In principle, freedom-of-movement is fine, but you still can have SOME rules.

I know it's "where do we draw the line?" type of thing, but why not just go game-by-game?

 

[Cyched]

Yep. In principle, freedom-of-movement is fine, but you still can have SOME rules.

I know it's "where do we draw the line?" type of thing, but why not just go game-by-game?

But here’s the deal now, if you and I can go out and find a new job at any time, for any reason, will limiting that freedom of movement hold up in court?

That was partially the basis for the SC decision. And now the legality of non competes is being questioned in the working world on top of that.

 

[Sigmapolis]

9th year Dr. M.D. PhD QB is gonna be lit

Bobby Boucher was done with medical school by the time he was done playin' for the Mud Dogs.

 

[cyclone1209]

What a joke

If I wanted to watch a tier of play where it's all about
A) power to the players, and B) players getting the most money..
I would watch the NBA and NFL full time.

Yes I will still watch college. They deserve money too, i'm in that camp. But the big 3 leagues need to figure something out:
- 5 years to play 4
- One time max transfer (if your coach leaves you can go again)
- 2 year uniform signing contract out of high school

Like figure something out. This isn't sustainable. The game has already lost a lot of it's charm with games like Bedlam going away. Iowa State v. Iowa I am sure will be going away soon so the Hawks can play a stupid ass pac 12 team. Whole thing sucks and I cannot be the only one. With unlimited transfers this like really hurts high school seniors as well.

 

[aeroclone]

Well, maybe if we can't get Melvin Ejim's jersey retired, we can at least get him back on the roster.