NCAA votes to amend block/charge rule

Cyclone1985

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So the current rules states, "a defender had to be in legal guarding position when the offensive player lifted off the floor."

Sounds like the refs just need to enforce THIS rule, instead of tweaking it. Heck, Clyburn was on his way down and rosy cheeks hadn't even got "Set" yet.
 

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Quite honestly I don't think this is going to change much. It was before they left the floor, now it's when the shooting motion begins whether on the floor or not. It's still going to be subjective and difficult to officiate so I'll be shocked if this changes the way things are called much, if at all, just IMO.
 

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Quite honestly I don't think this is going to change much. It was before they left the floor, now it's when the shooting motion begins whether on the floor or not. It's still going to be subjective and difficult to officiate so I'll be shocked if this changes the way things are called much, if at all, just IMO.
That may be true. This is mostly for show, but refs are still always the ones who decide what it looks like to them.
 

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I heard an NBA official on ESPN during the NBS finals and he said when a shooter comes into the lane they are trained to focus on "the hands of the defender". Any other actions such as traveling, body contact, or offensive player jumping into straight up defender will often go un detected or may be called if is "seems logical" after the play. That's a lot of stuff to watch in a split second.
 

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Quite honestly I don't think this is going to change much. It was before they left the floor, now it's when the shooting motion begins whether on the floor or not. It's still going to be subjective and difficult to officiate so I'll be shocked if this changes the way things are called much, if at all, just IMO.

It will depend on how refs are told to call it. The rules and how it's called are shifting more towards the offensive player. If that is the case, that's good.
 

CTTB78

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This change will be known as the Iowa State Rule.............
 

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It's hard to really clearly define it. In my opinion, there's too many charges when the help defender slides in at the last second and just stands there. But I also thinks there's too many blocks when an on the ball defender is in good position but barreled into by the offensive player.
 

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From the ESPN article.
"Officials also can use the monitor to determine which player committed a foul. Previously, they were only allowed to use the monitor to determine the free-throw shooter."

Expansion of replay review among rule changes for NCAA hoops - ESPN

Sounds like they are fixing a few issues that plauged ISU.

Also, I'm a big fan of this change.
"Changes also were made for reviewing 3-pointers. For the first 36 minutes of play, officials must wait until the next media timeout to review whether a shot was a 3-point field goal."
Should speed up the game a bit.
 

FDWxMan

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It's hard to really clearly define it. In my opinion, there's too many charges when the help defender slides in at the last second and just stands there. But I also thinks there's too many blocks when an on the ball defender is in good position but barreled into by the offensive player.

Exactly right. There are a ton of charges that DON'T get called and go as blocks and nobody notices thanks to the "your feet have to be set to take a charge" myth.

You don't have to be stationary to legally take a charge.
 

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It's hard to really clearly define it. In my opinion, there's too many charges when the help defender slides in at the last second and just stands there. But I also thinks there's too many blocks when an on the ball defender is in good position but barreled into by the offensive player.

My opinion -- the rule should be changed to where you cannot ever get a charge called if you're just standing there (or maybe if you're standing there for less than 1.5 seconds). Eliminate the "try to draw a charge" completely. It must come during "active" defending.
 

FDWxMan

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My opinion -- the rule should be changed to where you cannot ever get a charge called if you're just standing there (or maybe if you're standing there for less than 1.5 seconds). Eliminate the "try to draw a charge" completely. It must come during "active" defending.

Conversely, have to eliminate the "guard leaning and jumping into a well placed, straight-up defender at the free throw line, creating contact and wildly throwing the ball in the air."

Technically, it doesn't need to be eliminated since that method of "drawing a foul" is already illegal, but it still gets called a defensive foul. That's as annoying as blarges to me.
 

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Conversely, have to eliminate the "guard leaning and jumping into a well placed, straight-up defender at the free throw line, creating contact and wildly throwing the ball in the air."

Technically, it doesn't need to be eliminated since that method of "drawing a foul" is already illegal, but it still gets called a defensive foul. That's as annoying as blarges to me.

2:25 mark...

[video=youtube;C_W4LviqhYM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_W4LviqhYM[/video]
 

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