Neal Brown is a whiney ***** most of the time. It really sucks to be the Iowa Hawkeyes and have to play 12 Super Bowls per season.
Neal Brown postgame on Iowa State ... well worth your time
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Resorting to name calling, classic flag wave.
That offense was not any good vs any competent defense they played before us. There is no other way to spin it.
Yep. The world is out to get ISU. Those refs had $ on the game... and those PI calls against WVU were 100% deserved. Only bad calls go against ISU.
Got outplayed and outcoached. If you want to blame it on the refs, go for it.
I thought it was hilarious, when the female on the broadcast was narrating the replay of the WVU td in the back of the end zone and she says "he got his foot down". I"m like what? She is saying that while the camera angle on the replay she was narrating shows no foot toe or anything down on the ground.
It wasn't rigged, but they taking away our TD from Breece, clearly down, the spot on Brock's run, the TD where WV receiver didn't get a foot down, the delay of game call that wasn't made. Those were all drastic changes in the game. The PI calls were lame but they didn't give or take away TDs.
You could be right but I do think we will beat texas at home and Lose to Oklahoma on the road.....
I agree the mountain men were a whole lot more Physical than we were esp IN THE TRENCHES Both our Off Line and Def Line got manhandled all game long!!
a fun fact. WVU's highest rated recruit from 2021, is a offensive tackle that is 6-6, over 300 pounds and was a div 1 baseball prospect. his rating was over .95. Offers from everyone. rated number 13 offensive tackle in country.
he didnt play a snap against baylor, but he hasnt missed a snap since the bye week. meaning he took over at right tackle the TCU game. guess they decisded to burn his redshirt. He got offensive lieman of game against ISU, with 8 pancake blocks.
take out the weakest offensive player on the line, and put in a guy who played the best, and it is a different team.
ISU has the better team, but WVU is extremely young and I expect them to get better week to week. So while Texas tech and maryland both nipped WVU, I dont think either would come within 10 points on a rematch at a neutral site.
this post in response to"lost to a mediocre team" WVU certainly has been a mediocre team this year, but i dont think it will be again this season.
he didnt play a snap against baylor, but he hasnt missed a snap since the bye week. meaning he took over at right tackle the TCU game. guess they decisded to burn his redshirt. He got offensive lieman of game against ISU, with 8 pancake blocks.
take out the weakest offensive player on the line, and put in a guy who played the best, and it is a different team.
ISU has the better team, but WVU is extremely young and I expect them to get better week to week. So while Texas tech and maryland both nipped WVU, I dont think either would come within 10 points on a rematch at a neutral site.
this post in response to"lost to a mediocre team" WVU certainly has been a mediocre team this year, but i dont think it will be again this season.
FWIW I certainly hope you are right.
But while I can't put a finger on it... sometime has just seemed... IDK - off? Not quite right? The entire season. I don't know if it was the team struggling with preseason expectations or what but it just hasn't felt quite right - maybe that's just me but I haven't felt like this time - to steal a line from coach - ever found a rhytm all season let alone in a game
This seems like you are just picking and choosing to be miserable. We literally had 3 games in a row where we had great rhythm.
Sure but did the refs tell our fronts to get handled all game, our corners to give up 8 yard outs time and time again, our entire team to forget how to tackle, etc... the Hall "fumble" and phantom WVU TD catch were BS but we had plenty of chances. Campbell summed it up perfectly that we can't let outside factors be decision makers.
You inadvertently just made my point. 8 game week in, you say we had great rhythm for 3 weeks.
I'm no math major but that would seem to be slightly less than 40%. Even if you say the UNLV game, that puts us directly at 50%. Which would indicate that the team has not been able to sustain a rhythm over the course of the season ( too date). Which is more or less exactly what I said.
That things have not clicked the way they did last year for a team that returns the vast majority of the same players and coaching staff. 50% points to inconsistencies which for as veteran a team as this is a bit of a head scratcher to me.
Hopefully they can right the ship, take down Texas and have a great month of November moving forward. But 2/3 of the way through the season - I think the best way to describe this team has been somewhat inconsistent. Opponents, injuries and a lot else goes into it but saying that because we played 3 straight good games in a year where we've played 8 - is not a sign that we have a great rythm or we're all systems go.
Its a sign of a bowl bound football team that is riding a wave more than it did last year.
What the hell does it matter that we played poorly? Are we not allowed to demand the game be called fairly because we have a poor performance? One should have no effect on the other
Agreed, I just stated that if we showed up we'd have won easily regardless of the refs. So we can blame the refs, but we can also blame the play.
Our guys played well enough to win the game. They weren't great, but serviceable. Those calls you reference are a 21-point swing. Give one of those away and it's still a 14-point swing. The refs handed this one to WVU.
Oh no, I used a Euphemism to quickly say that you were overstating. I hope your fragility will allow you to continue you life in harmony. Shall we find you a padded room. For crying out loud, I'm just saying that there is a Good sized gap between what you are now saying and what you originally said.
I still see no evidence that WVU has a "Putrid" Offense especially in the passing game where they got some fringe plays/low likelyhood plays to inflate their score even further. Nobody's saying we Played well on Defense or that WVU is all world offensively. I just don't think the sky is falling. Some of those plays were great throws and some were great catches. We didn't get under some balls that were in the air a long time as well. So I can admit it was a mixed bag. Can you or are we still standing by the over-reaction of a putrid Offense.
That game and WVU in general makes me want to Puke, but this game wasn't as much of an outlier as you made it seem. There are a lot of similarities to the Texas Offense and the West Virginia Offense. I think with another week of adjustments getting things tuned for Hummel's strengths vs. Rose's strengths we'll see the defense recover some. Will it be the top 5-10 defense we've seen. Probably not right now, but They weren't terrible. A lot of things went right for a decent Offense to beat us this week and because we scored fast when we had the ball it was a load for the guys on D.
Really odd first paragraph, hardly worth responding to.
As for the bolded part, I believe it was a mixed bag and have admitted as much (hence when I called them average at best, up from putrid). The numbers back up that they are an average offense (again, at best).
I believe we will continue to struggle in the defensive backfield in the weeks to come. Texas, TTU and certainly OU have the playmakers outside to hurt us like WVU & OSU did several times.
Our guys aren’t out of position all that much, they just REALLY struggle to make plays on the ball.
I can agree with most of that, especially the last statement, But I will add a grain of salt. WVU's offense is rated average AT WORST by most ranking systems. NCAA was the only one by yards that I saw they are ranked slightly below average. By sports books and by teamrankings they are slightly above average. Odds shark has them as far as the top 40th percentile.
They played 2 power 5's non conference and while VT is an average team their defense is well above average.
There is room to not freak out after a subpar (but not terrible) performance from our defense.
That was not bad coverage on the "catch" at the back of the endzone. and we stretched our D thin in a number of ways. Some of those big gains were great throws. Some should have been picked, but nearly everything that could go wrong went wrong. We still have a very good defense even without Rose. If we find a non-Rose Option to increase pressure on the QB our guys will be in good shape if not great shape.
We're gonna get Texas. Lets go STATE! Whorns down.
They played 2 power 5's non conference and while VT is an average team their defense is well above average.
There is room to not freak out after a subpar (but not terrible) performance from our defense.
That was not bad coverage on the "catch" at the back of the endzone. and we stretched our D thin in a number of ways. Some of those big gains were great throws. Some should have been picked, but nearly everything that could go wrong went wrong. We still have a very good defense even without Rose. If we find a non-Rose Option to increase pressure on the QB our guys will be in good shape if not great shape.
We're gonna get Texas. Lets go STATE! Whorns down.
