So kids don't go to other school districts or other towns? Kids from Urbandale have jobs in Johnston same for West Des Moines, Waukee, Roosevelt, Lincoln, Norwalk, Indianola etc. So how do you stop this from happening - not so simple.
New Mexico first state to say no high school football
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pride, come on. You’re all about opening up, and your concern for the loss of life is completely reliant on that.
you should come down and see what your ideas are actually doing to people.
So, no comment. My agenda, if you must, is to alert people to the clear dangers on the other side of the equation. Our situation is most certainly not "do whatever it takes if it saves one life" alone. It is, "how can we save as many lives as possible, while ensuring that we don't destroy more than we save".
all kinds of comments.
you are firmly in the nonsensical camp of the cure being worse than the disease.
other countries have actually obeyed science and are moving forward with life.
This doesn’t exactly apply to the football discussion but pertains to why I think sports will be shut down. We can’t guarantee adults will make right decision for kids.
just learned that a metro 12U softball team has a positive case. Coaches and tournament talked with each other and tourney is letting team play (without player obviously), they are playing as I type. Some players from team refused to play obviously so brought in a few subs. Uncertain if parents of other teams were made aware of this.
Doesn’t seem the smartest idea to bring a team with a known case into contact with up to 7 other teams.
just learned that a metro 12U softball team has a positive case. Coaches and tournament talked with each other and tourney is letting team play (without player obviously), they are playing as I type. Some players from team refused to play obviously so brought in a few subs. Uncertain if parents of other teams were made aware of this.
Doesn’t seem the smartest idea to bring a team with a known case into contact with up to 7 other teams.
Or the current “plan” out of DC / “just kind of hope it goes away.”
Not of the opinion that pretend and hope will allow football and school.
Well, because everyone wants to be "technical".....they never do come into "contact" with each other. No handshake after games....just wave. Foul balls....only person allowed to retrieve ball is a teammate. No fans....NO ONE! So unless "contact" is now defined as running within 10 feet of the opponent as you round the bases...or standing on the same spot as the opposing fielder i.e. center field, you know....tainted grass....they'll be fine.
Appreciate your perspective and agree with many of your comments. My wife is a former teacher and believes there will be many teachers leave the profession and it will be very hard to get subs, as you stated.
I think the currents plan out of des Moines is woefully inadequate, as does my wife and several teachers we know. If people want in person schooling, you need to contact the local school boards, your state representatives and the governors office and demand a good plan that does the best job possible to safeguard students, teachers and staff. It will not be easy.
I’ve been to a grand total of two softball games this summer so admittedly a small sample. But your description doesn’t match what I saw at all. Sure no handshakes, etc but to think players aren’t in contact with each other is wrong. Friends daughter is a catcher and she got pretty nervous after being coughed on by a batter more than once. Obviously batters didn’t do it on purpose but that’s all it takes.
Clonedude already made a great reply, but I must add, I do not know anybody who “hopes” for no football or in person school.
I know many people, myself included, who realize that the totally inept response to this pandemic by our country will make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to do either safely. Afraid the ship has sailed.
People that are confused about why many don't think they're possible or think it's happening because we're all just hoping for it should go read the stories about recent hospitalizations in places like Florida, Texas, AZ and Cali.
I understand. I have been to every game this year(almost 20). And that's what I saw in every game. Being in that position, if I was your friend's daughter....and she's that concerned....maybe she should be more concerned with the umpire over her shoulder every pitch.
I get where you're coming from and I'm extremely glad that I'm not a teenager right now (or a parent of teenagers) because it would be extremely hard to figure out what the boundaries should be. While I totally disagree with you on this I think there is a lot of really bad posts from people that are trying to just will this thing away so I respect that you're giving real reasons that make sense for why someone would have a different view.
I don’t know if you are referring to high school, middle school or elementary in Des Moines but doing much more than what high schools are doing isn’t feasible. Due to the number of students, they can’t handle more than a certain percentage of students in the building. For example, with a student population of 2400+ at Lincoln, grades 9-12, the most that could feasibly be in the building and doing everything perfectly within CDC guidelines is 40% of the student population. Throw in a day where there is a deep cleaning and nobody is in the building, it gets really limited on options.
People need to remember it’s not just an easy fix. In person is obviously the best option but it’s not realistic at this point. You have to do what appears to be the next best thing.
Like I said earlier I’ve only been to two games. But those two the ump did a decent job of staying back to an extent. From what I saw it was first base coaches that were the biggest issue and just first base in general along with home plate.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I did end my statement saying it would not be easy. That said, I think you always start with the best plan and try to see what it takes to make it happen. There might be a way to accomplish more than first seems possible.
If you must develop a best we can do plan, then that must be judged to determine if it is satisfactory. If not, then you go on line. I know my statements are easy to say, and really hard to do. When I ran some large manufacturing operations, we had a pandemic plan. At the current high rates of infection of a very contagious virus, all plans may fall short. Very tough situation, but I feel you must error on the side of safety. So, I understand and agree with your points.
Just got a note from nephews in Phoenix. They start school 01Aug - 100% on line. Of course Arizona is a super disaster, which we may match as we approach 800/day.
people don’t realize how far behind the death reports are. We just passed 100 a day in Texas. but that was what was reported from before.
By August 1, we may very well be right there with you at that number.
be safe
