*** Official #10 IOWA STATE vs Kansas State Game(Day) Thread ***

t-noah

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“No way we win this one”
- CF chuds

“Hold my ****”
- Otz
Our fan base is up and down. Too high when things are going great, too low when it is not. When we lose a game or two, many of our fans give up and don't think we will win another game. I've seen it a number of times.

Luckily our BB (and FB) team(s) can stand the heat, generally follow the coaching staff, continue to play hard, and good things happen, of late. Fingers crossed. We still have a lot to play for, and a team with a high ceiling.

Not too worry, our fans will come through again. Our next loss will be accompanied by overwhelming dread and negativity. We likely will not be able to win again this year.
 

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if he isn't playing now he won't ever play for TJ. There is a walk on playing ahead of him.
I wouldn’t say that, college basketball has a long list of guys that don’t contribute in Year 1 but become very good. We have no backup pg without KG, so Cade plays.

But if you’re outside the top 8, or at risk of being so, you’d have to question whether staying will help you develop

With player compensation, I think you’ll see more of these guys go to the Drake and UNI types to flash their skills early, then get paid
 

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It doesn’t bother me, but it is likely influential on his decision to return
Ehh probably not. His decision to return would be based on coaches beliefs and his own on beliefs not whether or not he’s getting spot minutes here and there when a guy gets injured.
 
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FinalFourCy

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Ehh probably not. His decision to return would be based on coaches beliefs and his own on beliefs not whether or not he’s getting spot minutes here and there when a guy gets injured.
One and the same

Actions like no time in games in which there is time for guys to get develop minutes is more indicative of beliefs than words
 

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I wouldn’t say that, college basketball has a long list of guys that don’t contribute in Year 1 but become very good. We have no backup pg without KG, so Cade plays.

But if you’re outside the top 8, or at risk of being so, you’d have to question whether staying will help you develop

With player compensation, I think you’ll see more of these guys go to the Drake and UNI types to flash their skills early, then get paid
It's the defense, not the ball handling that had Cade playing. One person gets out of place on our defense and it falls apart. Cade has an extra year of knowing the defense.

Even without Keshon, Iowa State still has Jones, Lipsey and JJ to bring it up the court.
 

FinalFourCy

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It's the defense, not the ball handling that had Cade playing. One person gets out of place on our defense and it falls apart. Cade has an extra year of knowing the defense.

Even without Keshon, Iowa State still has Jones, Lipsey and JJ to bring it up the court.
I don’t know if I agree, but if so it’s even more incriminating to with respect to odds Nojus decides to return
 

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I don’t know if I agree, but if so it’s even more incriminating to with respect to odds Nojus decides to return
It's just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.

I don't find it incriminating at all. For most freshman, this is the most complex defense they've ever played. It'd be shocking if a true freshman picked it fast. Milan was not good at it last year at all, but his offense was so important. He has improved a ton this year. No reason Nojus can't do the same.
 
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It's the defense, not the ball handling that had Cade playing. One person gets out of place on our defense and it falls apart. Cade has an extra year of knowing the defense.

Even without Keshon, Iowa State still has Jones, Lipsey and JJ to bring it up the court.
I tend to believe the D angle might be the case vs. NI not being able to catch, dribble, and pass in spot minutes. Shooting is not part of the argument here since Kelderman isn’t expected to.
 

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If current bracket projection holds, should ISU get through its first game in KC, the Big 12 tournament will likely permit revenge against three of the four remaining teams that have beaten ISU in conference play in our side of the bracket. OSU-BYU-UH.

WVU escapes our grasp.
 

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I don’t know if I agree, but if so it’s even more incriminating to with respect to odds Nojus decides to return
I have yet to a positive post regarding the actual game from you. All about Nojus (maybe you are relative). It’s insane to keep beating the same dead horse even in the final regular season game
 

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One and the same

Actions like no time in games in which there is time for guys to get develop minutes is more indicative of beliefs than words
I have zero clue what Nojus is thinking but don’t think we would’ve rolled him out in the Houston and this game for developmental minutes? If he’s not playing there’s a reason.

I don’t think we would need to worry too much about a guy’s NIL value if he’s not playing over a walkon.
 

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That isn't why. You don't think Nojus can handle the ball?

Then why?

I think he can handle the ball. He seemed to not be great with it in traffic with it in the last game he played.

He doesn't play PG. Kade plays PG. He's a PG.

Nojus isn't a PG.

Kade plays PG.
 

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If current bracket projection holds, should ISU get through its first game in KC, the Big 12 tournament will likely permit revenge against three of the four remaining teams that have beaten ISU in conference play in our side of the bracket. OSU-BYU-UH.

WVU escapes our grasp.
Could get WVU or Kansas in championship
 

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Speaking of freshman who don't play, Omaha is still struggling quite a bit at Wake since returning from his injury.

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