I didn’t get to watch the game live, but I just finished watching the recording of it. I am extremely proud of how these young men stepped up in the moment of adversity. The Cyclone pride and character was on fully display. Rest up and heal up quickly. Great things are coming soon.
*** Official #12 IOWA STATE vs #17 BYU Game(Day) Thread ***
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Yes, he is supposed to be a lottery pick. Most BYU fans think he'll be playing in the NBA next year.
He was 3.4 inches beyond the 3 foot restricted area, or 8.636 cm Metric.
Officiating is SO subjective. They have to make instantaneous judgments on things that happen in tenths of a second, and the reality is that they often miss things or make mistakes. If THE OFFICIALS, just feet away from the incident, miss calls, I don't have much confidence in the judgment of any fan from any team watching from the stands or on TV.
I also think that anyone enthusiastic enough to follow basketball probably wears mental glasses in their team's colors. Consequently, they think any calls FOR their team are obviously correct while any calls AGAINST their team are questionable at best. Not that fans are prejudiced or anything!
Bottom line: I think the officials make a fair number of mistakes, but I don't think it's deliberate or indicative of bias. I will say this: three years ago when BYU was playing in another conference, the officiating was quite different. With those officials, I think ANY Big XII team would have had every starter fouled out by halftime because they called a lot of what I considered minor, and questionable, fouls. Coming to watch the Big XII was a huge difference. There's a lot more "let the guys play" attitude here. For what it's worth, I think that helps the Big XII teams because the NCAA Tournament officials seem to call things that way too.
I'm not a violent person but if Saunders and/or Hall lost some teeth from an elbow to the mouth, wouldn't shed any tears over it.
pretty consistently on both ends. when we were on defense it sucked and when we were on offense it sucked and that is both ends.
Heise nudged him in the back on the drive but it was pretty weak. He grabbed the arm out by the ft line but they didnt call that. BYU got the "automatic whistle" on about every drive during a crucial stretch. They made a lot of plays on both ends to seal the deal, but they weren't hurting for calls.
I was in a bar watching so couldn't listen to J&E but I said the same thing at about the 8 minute mark. Playing yesterday and with no bench today took our legs away late. Out effort was 100%+, but there wasn't much left in the tank.
We didn't drive the lane enough the 2nd half, refs were calling all that stuff. Probably a lot of tired legs led to that.
ISU 22 fouls. BYU 12... was this the same ref crew from the Hilton game?
First of all, GREAT game today. Well played and exciting. Tip of the cap to B.Y.U. I hope they beat Houston tomorrow.
So, the Cyclones finished 5th in the Regular Season (Bummer) and out in the Quarter-Finals of the Big XII Tournament (Bummer). No banners or trophies so far.
Hopefully, the lads can reach at least the Sweet 16 (which I think is their ceiling). Just feeling kind of blah about basketball right now.
Prove me wrong boys! Make a run to the Elite 8 or Final 4 and turn a mildly disppointing season into one of the best in ISU history.
Let's Go State!
So, the Cyclones finished 5th in the Regular Season (Bummer) and out in the Quarter-Finals of the Big XII Tournament (Bummer). No banners or trophies so far.
Hopefully, the lads can reach at least the Sweet 16 (which I think is their ceiling). Just feeling kind of blah about basketball right now.
Prove me wrong boys! Make a run to the Elite 8 or Final 4 and turn a mildly disppointing season into one of the best in ISU history.
Let's Go State!
Great effort. My only quibble … no defensive adjustment to guard the 3 point line better.
If the on-ball defender can’t stop the dribble drive, just give them the layup rather the kick out to an open man. They just murdered us on the drive and kick.
That is an elite 3 point shooting team. Need to recognize it.
If the on-ball defender can’t stop the dribble drive, just give them the layup rather the kick out to an open man. They just murdered us on the drive and kick.
That is an elite 3 point shooting team. Need to recognize it.
If Lipsey and Gilbert play, BYU is toast.
We were missing our two best perimeter defenders. Only so much you can do when short-benched, unfortunately.
The officials weren't perfect, but they were not the reason for the foul differential. BYU's guys could drive the paint pretty much at will and distribute or attempt a paint shot which tends to result in more fouls. Conversely, other than Momcilovic or Jeffereson backing down their defender, not much of our offense was downhill.
Solid effort by the players. But we gave up 96 points to BYU and there's maybe, maybe a 10% chance we win. With Gilbert and Lipsey out, our best chance of winning was a game in the 70's.
Solid effort by the players. But we gave up 96 points to BYU and there's maybe, maybe a 10% chance we win. With Gilbert and Lipsey out, our best chance of winning was a game in the 70's.
I am not there yet. TJ made the sweet sixteen two out of his first three years. Very impressive indeed. However, I cant say that I expect him to go to the sweet sixteen every year. The goal, yes, but not the expectation.
Having the sweet sixteen as the expectation every year kind of sounds like entitlement. I don’t ever want to see ISU‘s fan base being characterized as entitled. Rather, I prefer the current slogan “Nothing Easy.”
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I usually don't watch games that we lose. I might have to watch this game again, from your perspective. I don't like whiney, complaining players either.
Today was the best thing that could have happened to this team IMO. A close loss.
More than ANYTHING else right now... this team needs rest... and they need to get healthy. Playing more games on consecutive days would only hurt us.
More than ANYTHING else right now... this team needs rest... and they need to get healthy. Playing more games on consecutive days would only hurt us.
