*** Official #12 IOWA STATE vs #17 BYU Game(Day) Thread ***

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I'd like to think that Gilbert & Lipsey would have made a difference in beating BYU.

But our defense isn't on the same level as UH this year. Houston plays defense with their feet and bodies. We play with our bodies and hands. The other big difference is we don't have a rotation player that plays above the rim. Heise's probably our best. Houston has 4 or 5 guys that can contest shots and go get rebounds.
 

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I'd like to think that Gilbert & Lipsey would have made a difference in beating BYU.

But our defense isn't on the same level as UH this year. Houston plays defense with their feet and bodies. We play with our bodies and hands. The other big difference is we don't have a rotation player that plays above the rim. Heise's probably our best. Houston has 4 or 5 guys that can contest shots and go get rebounds.
We are not near as good on defense as last year. Let alone Houston. Bottom line we gave up 96. Houston gave up 54.
 

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it appears the basket looks really big to BYU when we play them....or maybe their 3 point mojo just ran out? hard to tell.
ISU gave BYU a lot of good 3-pt looks.

I think ISU needs a "Plan B" for defense in the tourney. If the trapping defense is giving up 3's, ISU needs to be ready to make adjustments.
 
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ISU gave BYU a lot of good 3-pt looks.

I think ISU needs a "Plan B" for defense in the tourney. If the trapping defense is giving up 3's, ISU needs to be ready to make adjustments.
We have been giving great looks to everyone on the perimeter this season. Not sure what happened to our perimeter defense from last year but it could hurt us in the tourney. One team gets hot it’s over.
 
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ISU gave BYU a lot of good 3-pt looks.

I think ISU needs a "Plan B" for defense in the tourney. If the trapping defense is giving up 3's, ISU needs to be ready to make adjustments.
It would be nice for sure but easier said than done. If there was an effective "let's just do this" approach instead, I'm sure the coaches would give it a go.

It's also kind of like all the "let's run some 4-3" chatter in football. When you focus practice- and personnel-wise on one defense, it's hard to also be really good at another defense. A bit of a zero-sum game.
 
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We have been giving great looks to everyone on the perimeter this season. Not sure what happened to our perimeter defense from last year but it could hurt us in the tourney. One team gets hot it’s over.
I think it's because our two best perimeter defenders (Tamin and Keshon) haven't been 100% for most of the year, and the bigs aren't as mobile/versatile as last year. Rob Jones was pretty elite at switching out on a Big 12 guard and somehow not getting burned, and there's no Hason Ward-type athlete on this roster.
 
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We have been giving great looks to everyone on the perimeter this season. Not sure what happened to our perimeter defense from last year but it could hurt us in the tourney. One team gets hot it’s over.

BRE, Ward and Tre King made things easier. BRE's lateral speed was underrated and he could create havoc anywhere.

Important to keep in mind they all had two years together in the program, and BRE had three including emerging as a vocal leader.
 
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It would be nice for sure but easier said than done. If there was an effective "let's just do this" approach instead, I'm sure the coaches would give it a go.

It's also kind of like all the "let's run some 4-3" chatter in football. When you focus practice- and personnel-wise on one defense, it's hard to also be really good at another defense. A bit of a zero-sum game.
yeah weren't super effective at running other defenses. I guess when we ran zone for a few plays against BYU, it kind of made them scratch their head, and got them out of their rhythm for a bit. But it didn't last.

I guess we just have to accept what we are right now defensively. If some tourney team somehow shoots 18-36 from 3 against us, however unlikely that seems, we just tip our hat to them. I don't forsee that happening, but we are Iowa State.
 
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We have been giving great looks to everyone on the perimeter this season. Not sure what happened to our perimeter defense from last year but it could hurt us in the tourney. One team gets hot it’s over.
I remember people #itching about the 3-point defense last year. Really all 3 previous TJ years. Giving up 3s is a consequence of the defense that pressures everywhere. Most times it doesn't result in 18-36.
Sometimes it results in 29 forced turnovers.
 
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