*** Official #17 IOWA STATE vs Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***

[cayin]

so Verdom and Orange out today? Ouch.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

 

[Freebird]

Why am I better at clock management in Madden than Matt Campbell is in real life?

 

[Cyched]

I’m in the stadium

I’m plastered

Gotta score a TD on this opening drive.

Somehow someway way it’s 1 poss going into the 4th? You have a fighting chance with KUs woes

This post likely won’t age well

 

[Hoggins]

Think lower. They'll be at a place in the selection order with better options, and while in the past they might have picked us early since we travel, you'd have to be stupid to think our fans would travel well if we end up with 4-5 losses after the 7-0 start.

So play UNLV in the Vegas bowl? Even better! Road bowl game baby!

 

[FerShizzle]

CMC better bow his head and thank the lord for TJ this thanksgiving. That dude is going to take a lot of heat off the finish of this football season.

 

[Thomasrickj]

Fox sports had a tweet before the season started, showing how many 4-5 star players were on Big 12 teams. ISU was dead last with 1. That 4 star is the third string QB. ISU has to win by developing players and having great coaching. The current recruiting class is ranked 63rd in the country. Mediocrity is all ISU will ever be unless they magically start getting these great players. ISU had overachieved all season, this drop off was bound to happen. The 7-0 start was amazing, but ISU’s weakness’ are being exposed now(talent, injuries, and in game coaching).

Accurate. We’re not getting to double digit wins and I’d be surprised with 9 wins at this point. Teams have figured out our predictable offense and defense.

 

[drmwevr08]

How many starters are hurt? I'm going to need a quick excuse.

 

[cincinnaticyclone]

 

[Prone2Clone]

This stadium sucks in that there are no game stats displayed

I’m good with that today.

 

[ClubCy]

Watching multiple games earlier and during halftime it is GLARING how bad our o line play specifically pass protection is compared to most other teams

 

[cyclonez7]

How many starters are hurt? I'm going to need a quick excuse.

It's alright we're young

 

[alarson]

Fox sports had a tweet before the season started, showing how many 4-5 star players were on Big 12 teams. ISU was dead last with 1. That 4 star is the third string QB. ISU has to win by developing players and having great coaching. The current recruiting class is ranked 63rd in the country. Mediocrity is all ISU will ever be unless they magically start getting these great players. ISU had overachieved all season, this drop off was bound to happen. The 7-0 start was amazing, but ISU’s weakness’ are being exposed now(talent, injuries, and in game coaching).

And honestly it feels like that disadvantage is trending in a worse direction in the NIL era.

 

[Cyhig]

Other than the Covid season, name a critical game Matt has won - ND embarrassed him in bowl, lost Big 12 Championship game, lost Alamo Bowl, lost Cheez It Bowl to Clemson, the whole season after the Covid Season, lost to TT to go 8-0 for the first time ever, 2 Gameday Iowa games, etc…

Yes he has beat some ranked teams, but at the end of the day, it hasn’t mattered.

Non BCS bowl games are overrated.
Campbell has made ISU relevant. From 1945-2016, ISU had 7 seasons with a winning conference record

Since 2017 ISU has 6, with a 7th likely this year

 

[IcSyU]

KU has scored 31 in total twice against P4 opponent. 31 vs ASU and 42 vs Houston

Mighty Lindenwood only gave up 27 in the first half defensively.

Great work, defense.

 

[AllInForISU]

There is no question that Campbell has improved the overall quality of athletes in the program during his tenure. There are some big time guys playing on Sunday that came thru here. He has changed the culture and made the program relevant.

All that said, he is NOT a game day coach. He doesn’t adjust when his plan isn’t working. He doesn’t win in the margins. He can’t manage the clock well. We waste plays on every offensive possession. You can’t get to the next rung of the ladder in college football without being good at those things.

These are facts.

You sound like a Hawkeye fan from the time of Dr. Tom Davis. That worked out well.

 

[Walden4Prez]

How many starters are hurt? I'm going to need a quick excuse.

There are a lot of guys hurt on D. What’s not acceptable is expecting the same game plan to work with freshman and walk-ons in there.

 

[FerShizzle]

 

[Walden4Prez]

You sound like a Hawkeye fan from the time of Dr. Tom Davis. That worked out well.

I don’t even know what this means.

 

[CycloneErik]

We need to talk the scoreboard guy to put an extra 14 points on the board for us during half. As we know against Kansas, once points are on the board you can’t take them off, right?

It would never work! Halftime is an ultimate dead ball situation. Your plan is unpossible,