Official 2015 Hoiberg NBA Speculation Thread

[cowgirl836]

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For some reason I feel like this sums up Fred right now, or anytime he would make the move to the NBA

I never noticed that Eckhart and Fred kinda look alike

 

[isuska]

 

[Cyclones01]

ISU has made the Sweet Sixteen under each of its previous four head coaches. Kansas State football, on the other hand, suffered losing records in 45 of the previous 50 seasons before Snyder was hired in 1989. They had losing records in two of Prince's three seasons and went 7-6 in the other.

Bill Snyder is the 1-in-a-million hire for Kansas State football, literally the only coach to have sustained success of any degree since the Great Depression (and his success went far beyond any other KSU coach). Hoiberg is a great coach, but ISU basketball without Hoiberg in the past wasn't even remotely KSU football pre-Snyder.

I want that to be true, but it isn't. We made the tournament under Wayne one season, where we won the 8/9 game against Minnesota and got beat handily by UNC. Never made the tournament under Greg.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Not really, at least not for most fans.

Oh don't get me wrong... he will always be the Mayor, he will always be an Ames hero, he will always be the guy that brought ISU basketball back from the brink of extinction.... but he will also be the guy that made ISU fans believe and then turned his back on them. If he goes to the NBA Fred Hoiberg will just be another guy that came to Iowa State and left when his time playing was done, just another coach that was in Ames for a few years and left, and that is it... nothing more and nothing less.

I despise the NBA but I would gain a new interest in the game and that would be rooting for whatever franchise takes Hoiberg to fail and fail in the worst possible way. It's just the way it is. If your wife cheats on you and bails you don't root for her to have success... you hope karma makes her life a living hell from now until eternity. Not much different then this scenario facing Iowa State right now.

 

[abd4cy]

I never noticed that Eckhart and Fred kinda look alike

The Dark Knight Rises foreshadowed with a Dreamy look alike. We should have known all along.

 

[Spam]

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[inCyteful]

This. His "legendary" status is about to be revoked.

So

If he didn't come here to coach, he would go on being a legend.

But he does come here and makes ISU Basketball relevant again. (relevant is probably an understatement)

But now he is not a legend?

I see where you are coming from and I think you should go back.

 

[peteypie]

So have I missed any news? Or just 2492 posts of people speculating and freaking out?

 

[IAStubborn]

ISU has made the Sweet Sixteen under each of its previous four head coaches. Kansas State football, on the other hand, suffered losing records in 45 of the previous 50 seasons before Snyder was hired in 1989. They had losing records in two of Prince's three seasons and went 7-6 in the other.

Bill Snyder is the 1-in-a-million hire for Kansas State football, literally the only coach to have sustained success of any degree since the Great Depression (and his success went far beyond any other KSU coach). Hoiberg is a great coach, but ISU basketball without Hoiberg in the past wasn't even remotely KSU football pre-Snyder.

Agree but our last 4 coaches did not have sweet 16s. Unless McDermott is counting his sons birthday party and Wayne is counting NIT sweet 16.

 

[Nazty]

So

If he didn't come here to coach, he would go on being a legend.

But he does come here and makes ISU Basketball relevant again. (relevant is probably an understatement)

But now he is not a legend?

I see where you are coming from and I think you should go back.

Because he would also be the guy that personally sends the program back in the tank and prevents us from having a magical run when it is right there next season.

 

[Cydkar]

I think you're trying to hard here.

Fred knows exactly what his leaving means to this university/community/fanbase, especially when self stated goals weren't even close to achieved. The fact that he's allowed recruiting to be hurt is just a bonus.

I am of the opinion Mrs. Hoiberg is pushing this move just as hard, if not harder. The sad part is she absolutely knows what this will mean as well.

The Bulls job is not a good job. The roster isn't great and they've shown no ability to land top free agents. Add that a couple more years with no playoff success puts gar pax squarely on the hot seat, and your ally is gone.

Minnesota makes sense, I suppose because of young roster. But there is a history of futility there.

Anyway good luck fred, but I won't be rooting for you.

Don't say that to Travis Hines.

 

[laminak]

I never used the word "proof" and never referenced Paige (although that makes sense now) nor Matt leaving due to this....But if you think we lost out on Williams and Diallo (not a shoe in at that point, but we got booted from the running) only because Matt left, and not because Fred would not give them his word he would be coach in 2016, I question how you and Rholtgraves find your way home at night...

I believe there are many possible explanations to some of those things happening. I could be correct in stating we lost Williams due to his primary recruiter and main contact left. TJ got Dime to go to UW over ISU last year with less Fred noise. The main recruiter can have sway.

As for Diallo, we lost out to KU, a blueblood. MA's leaving may or may not have impacted that. In that case, I'm taking the face-value that the better school got him since they're better. Sure, you could be correct tying that to Hoiberg's instability, however there are other legitimate reasons out there. Again, ISU lost plenty of recruits with Hoiberg at the helm and coming back.

 

[isu81]

Oh don't get me wrong... he will always be the Mayor, he will always be an Ames hero, he will always be the guy that brought ISU basketball back from the brink of extinction.... but he will also be the guy that made ISU fans believe and then turned his back on them. If he goes to the NBA Fred Hoiberg will just be another guy that came to Iowa State and left when his time playing was done, just another coach that was in Ames for a few years and left, and that is it... nothing more and nothing less.

I despise the NBA but I would gain a new interest in the game and that would be rooting for whatever franchise takes Hoiberg to fail and fail in the worst possible way. It's just the way it is. If your wife cheats on you and bails you don't root for her to have success... you hope karma makes her life a living hell from now until eternity. Not much different then this scenario facing Iowa State right now.

Let me guess- you cheered when Rashad Vaughn got injured?

 

[cyrocksmypants]

So have I missed any news? Or just 2492 posts of people speculating and freaking out?

Fred is potentially going to coach the bulls/quarterback for the Bears at the same time.

 

[laminak]

Agree but our last 4 coaches did not have sweet 16s. Unless McDermott and Wayne is counting NIT sweet 16.

Hey, many Hawkeye fans counted their NIT title game as playing for a national championship, so I think it makes sense from their POV.

 

[RubyClone]

So have I missed any news? Or just 2492 posts of people speculating and freaking out?

I think I read somewhere JP isn't on the tour today, so we have moved to DefCon 1.

Otherwise I'm as lost as you. Only other thing I got is there is an unusually high number of people on this board who wouldn't leave their current job to take one at the top of their chosen profession, and would at the same time turn down double the money. For those...

 

[inCyteful]

Because he would also be the guy that personally sends the program back in the tank and prevents us from having a magical run when it is right there next season.

Yes because he is the only coach. There is no other.

Just like when Floyd left and we went in the tank. Or like when Orr left and we went in the tank.

Good gawd, he is going to leave someday. If he left next year you would be ******** that he was fair weather coach that made hay while we had good players and then moved on.

 

[Cydkar]

Hey, many Hawkeye fans counted their NIT title game as playing for a national championship, so I think it makes sense from their POV.

Now that we have a Hawkeye reference this thread can officially suck.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Let me guess- you cheered when Rashad Vaughn got injured?

Rashad Vaughn was a recruit with no ties to the Iowa State program. After he decided not to pick ISU I paid zero attention to him or anything he did.

 

[CyKings]

One of the things I've noticed about our fanbase is how incredibly petty and unforgiving we are...

Fred took us to 4 straight NCAA tournaments (something no other ISU head coach can say)
Fred won back to back Big 12 tournaments (something no other ISU head coach can say)
Has the longest streak ever for ISU being a ranked team
Brought ISU back to relevance...

And I see so many fans ready to say F U fred ... IF ... he leaves...it's embarrassing.

I would love for him to stay, but if he chose to go, I would bear no ill will or negative feelings towards the man. The bulls is where he spent the prime of his career, where he has many ties. They were always one of the two teams (Timberwolves being the other) that I thought could sway him one day.