*** Official IOWA STATE VS Iowa Game(Day) Thread ***

madguy30

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Never said the games were unwinnable. Just pointing out that the talent level only goes up from here so, no, there is not a lot of time to make major adjustments. I would think last year proved that all of our games are winnable and I wouldn't have to make that obvious in posts.

You can't say it's talent going up from here the whole way though.
 

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Some other thoughts
  • Not sure that playing the first game would have made a difference in this game. Our execution may have been better at times (especially the punting!), but it wouldn't have changed the fact that our OL got completely manhandled by Iowa's DL. While the OL should improve throughout the season, today showed that they have a looooooong way to go before they are a championship level OL.
  • Why the change at Center, moving JGJ back to Center and Foster to LT? JGJ look lost on several plays today, which perhaps should be expected since he's been playing LT most of camp. What happened to Newell?
  • At times, it felt like I was watching the ISU offense of 2014 out there, but instead of Sam Richardson getting clobbered, it was Kyle Kempt.
  • Saw some bad body language from several players in the 4th quarter.
  • Iowa may have the best DL we'll face this year, with the possible exception of TCU, and our OL weaknesses were thoroughly exposed. Thankfully, OU's defensive line is not as good. They let UCLA kinda' hang around longer than they should have today. So, there is an opportunity for the staff to take the painful lessons from today and improve to the point where we might be able to sustain multiple drives against OU's defense.

I will take a morale victory if we lose by 10 against OU. They will be out for revenge from last year and they may try to run up the score.
 

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dexterhawk shouldn't get too confident in Iowa's defense IMO. Yes, their DL is solid and the ends are really good, but ISU couldn't have called a more conservative and horrible game today on offense. I didn't get it at all.

I suppose CMC will blame it on poor field position, but at some point you have to attack Iowa's weaknesses, not their strengths. We never did.
 

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Credit to both teams. I'm really trying to decifer it all, but it seemed like the botched punts took any kind of momentum out of our sails. Everything after that just snowballed. The D played their guts out and any question marks surrounding Mike Rose getting the start should be silenced. He was playing HS ball last year and he was all over the damn place today.

Mike Rose is a ******* stud
 

Cyforce

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Luckily we have four games to see if the freshmen can do any better. Foster wasn't much more than a speed bump.
 

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I see we're still refusing to acknowledge SDSU didn't want to stick around for a Sunday game.
Why would they want to since we agreed to give them money for a game they didn't even play. IMore important to pay SDSU than to refund our tickets or make them play to get paid.
 

clonedude

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Anyone else out there like me and just glad this game is over? I hate this game every year. And not just because we haven't won in 4 years either. I've never liked it. I'm just glad it's over and looking forward to the rest of the season.
 

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I'm intrigued why so many of you keep saying Iowa has a bad secondary? Because of a bad performance last year vs the Clones?

Iowa in the last 2 years has had a Thorpe winner and an additional Finalist. Phil Parker has made a career out of churning out NFL players from the secondary. There is nothing more frustrating than a offense too afraid to make a mistake. It's a constant frustration as a Iowa fan. That Iowa D is good though. I don't think Campbell wanted any part of that Dline. 10 sacks in 2 games.
 

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I'm intrigued why so many of you keep saying Iowa has a bad secondary? Because of a bad performance last year vs the Clones?

Iowa in the last 2 years has had a Thorpe winner and an additional Finalist. Phil Parker has made a career out of churning out NFL players from the secondary. There is nothing more frustrating than a offense too afraid to make a mistake. It's a constant frustration as a Iowa fan. That Iowa D is good though. I don't think Campbell wanted any part of that Dline. 10 sacks in 2 games.
the secondary is good because of players that aren't on the team anymore?
 

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Iowa’s secondary is not bad...they arent elite by any means but they are ok..Losing Kempt didnt help ISU cause at all. For a while i thought i was watching Iowa’s offense on ISU side..baffling. When u have WR’s like we have you have to use them...CMC was stubborn trying to force the run...dont get it.

It’s the first game folks...and it was in Iowa city a very very hard place to win after they had a game already..that game could gone other way too...easily.

It was great we actually threw ball to TE’s...it was almost great to see Matt Leo get snaps and he did fine..We have a DL where we can full substitute 3 men on the DL and still be effective and that is huge. Our defense was on field a lot.

Eni is a stud

Mike Rose is a complete stud.

Spears is a stud.

Tariq Milton had some nice catches..just didnt get it to him enough.


Some of you saying 3 or 4 wins are just absolutely idiots...this is maybe most talented team entire roster on both sides since I’ve been watching ISU for 40 years..Just had a poor play calling and execution offense today for a first game.. if we can find a way to get 2 wins the next 4 games we can win 6-7 games this year..
 
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