***Official where is Matt Campbell interviewing thread***

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Putting on the role of a HR professional and setting aside my irrational Cyclone perspective: CMC made ISU relevant in the Big 12 but not a top 20 program nationally, above .500 record in 9 years but not overwhelming, qualifies for Bowl games but does not perform well consistently, one NFL first round selection, never won a Big 12 Championship. Bottom line, we know CMC has done a fabulous job in Ames and hope he replicates what Snyder did at K St to a point and I don’t think a HR analysis makes him a candidate for any NFL HC job……but it’s Chicago and they hired Hoiberg & Floyd so who knows.
 
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As a "Family Man" I'd think you would have 2X time with family as a coach at Iowa State than any NFL job or many College jobs. Matt's a smart guy, I'm assuming his salary in Ames is good enough to survive on. It's amazing how Matt's and Kirk's carrer mirror each other. Kirk was given several extensions to keep him at iowa. Main difference is JP was proactive and gave the extension proactivly.

You're "assuming his salary is good enough to survive on"? Really? No **** it's good enough to survive on, he could hang it up tomorrow, never work another day in his life & still live more than OK.

Personally I'm not worried, what downside is there for him to take an NFL interview. Gains more insight into what NFL teams look for/what that process is like, makes more professional connections, etc. I think he knows better than to go to Chicago of all places.
 

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Most will find this odd but after several trips to the NYC Metro area on the Jersey side, I requested a private visit with a regular farmer who grew asparagus. Can confirm it’s the Garden State. Farmer had a flat 80 acres of half mile rows a couple feet apart of asparagus. Spotless weed free. Hand cut. Amount of individual labor involved was mind blowing. Anytime you get off the East Coast from Miami to Maine, you’ll find plenty of ag without the corn/soybean thing.
80 acres of asparagus? I wonder what his urine smells like...
 

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Putting on the role of a HR professional and setting aside my irrational Cyclone perspective: CMC made ISU relevant in the Big 12 but not a top 20 program nationally, above .500 record in 9 years but not overwhelming, qualifies for Bowl games but does not perform well consistently, one NFL first round selection, never won a Big 12 Championship. Bottom line, we know CMC has done a fabulous job in Ames and hope he replicates what Snyder did at K St to a point and I don’t think a HR analysis makes him a candidate for any NFL HC job……but it’s Chicago and they hired Hoiberg & Floyd so who knows.

I’ll just say, Krause wanted Floyd as HC as far back as ‘89 and Hoiberg was considered the next up and comer. If he would have taken the Golden State Job the year prior, like he probably should have, he would probably have had the career trajectory of Steve Kerr. It has less to do with Iowa State and more to do with the circumstances around their hires.
 
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You're "assuming his salary is good enough to survive on"? Really? No **** it's good enough to survive on, he could hang it up tomorrow, never work another day in his life & still live more than OK.

Personally I'm not worried, what downside is there for him to take an NFL interview. Gains more insight into what NFL teams look for/what that process is like, makes more professional connections, etc. I think he knows better than to go to Chicago of all places.

And he's still only 45.

Guy could coach another 30 years if he wants. I'm completely happy where I'm at, but if I got an interview request with a different organization for more prestige and money? Goddam right I'd take it, but odds are very high that I would pass.
 

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I’m not in Doomsday mode, though Matt’s willingness to officially speak to/“interview” with NFL teams right now tells me a few things that might be true:
- He has NFL ambitions (at some point)
- He feels he has achieved enough at ISU to consider what he’s done means he’s leaving it better than he found it
- He wants to learn more about how it works in the NFL.
^^ Maybe this applies to how you run a college program in an environment that grows more professional by the year. Or maybe he uses this knowledge to prep for a Pro job he really wants when that time comes (Chiefs, Browns, Steelers?)

He’s given us almost a decade. He won a Fiesta Bowl. He’s taken us to two XII titles. We just beat 10 win Miami on a neutral field. I’d be sad to see him go, but things have never been better for Cyclone football. I wouldn’t hold it against him if he left now.
Where have we seen something that he has officially interviewed or is even interested in officially interviewing? All I have seen is rumors that he will interview.
 

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Where have we seen something that he has officially interviewed or is even interested in officially interviewing? All I have seen is rumors that he will interview.
I've seen just rumors, too but there are media outlets, like The Athletic that is also reporting it. So, who knows.
 

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So here's the thing. Chris Williams talked about this in the 2 Guys show and it applies. Colleges had a spending problem for years, and they have to correct it quickly. While total revenue is still growing alot of that is going to be shifted to the players in the next few years. Coaches are going to start making far less money and contracts will be a fraction of their current value. That will be nearly across the board as far more mouths will be at the money trough.

Pro football doesn't have that issue. Their business model is set and salaries should just continue to slowly climb for coaches. If coaches want to cash in or in some cases maintain their current income its going to be an attractive option.
 

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Where have we seen something that he has officially interviewed or is even interested in officially interviewing? All I have seen is rumors that he will interview.
I have a source affiliated with AD that confirmed he “spoke to” the Jets early this week. This person would know. I’m not “plugged in” like others, but I trust this info.
 
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So here's the thing. Chris Williams talked about this in the 2 Guys show and it applies. Colleges had a spending problem for years, and they have to correct it quickly. While total revenue is still growing alot of that is going to be shifted to the players in the next few years. Coaches are going to start making far less money and contracts will be a fraction of their current value. That will be nearly across the board as far more mouths will be at the money trough.

Pro football doesn't have that issue. Their business model is set and salaries should just continue to slowly climb for coaches. If coaches want to cash in or in some cases maintain their current income its going to be an attractive option.
We could compete with the likes of Texas who was for years the wealthiest program in the country because there was only so much value they could get from their last few million dollars. They literally had to manufacture ways to unload some of that money. With the ability to pay players it shaves that last $20M off of everyone's war chest so it helps the richest of the rich get value again out of their historically bloated budgets. They have to be wildly enthusiastic about all of this.
 

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Anymore one reports on a rumor and others use that report as a source for their report.
I don't disagree

but I think there is something there in this instance. Still, he's not going to Chicago.
 

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As others have said, the odds of both Chicago wanting to hire him and Campbell deciding to make the move are really low.

What I'm really curious about is where did the information that he is interviewing come from. Typically it will be from a coach's agent, but it doesn't really fit in this case. Last we knew he doesn't have a traditional agent (uses a trusted attorney for contract negotiation) and he just signed an extension so there is no leverage motivation. The Bears seem interested in publicly having a really large list of candidates so it is probably from their side. If that's the case there's no telling what 'interviewing' means. Could be anywhere from a somewhat informal half hour call with the GM (or some other high ranking official) or could be a formal full interview as a top candidate.
 

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And he's still only 45.

Guy could coach another 30 years if he wants. I'm completely happy where I'm at, but if I got an interview request with a different organization for more prestige and money? Goddam right I'd take it, but odds are very high that I would pass.

Ok, but this isn't going from $50k/year to $100k/year, or even $100k to $200k - it'd be what, $4 million to $8 million? Keeping in mind you already have $20+ (likely way more) million in the bank. And you'd be moving to an objectively worse city to raise a family, have less time to raise that family, and will likely be fired within 3 years. I think chasing the bag to only chase the bag is short-sighted in this scenario, particularly when you have enough money for your family to thrive for the rest of time already.

Edit: Sorry, can't read - now I see that you say you likely would PASS on that opportunity. I agree, no harm in taking the interview!


So here's the thing. Chris Williams talked about this in the 2 Guys show and it applies. Colleges had a spending problem for years, and they have to correct it quickly. While total revenue is still growing alot of that is going to be shifted to the players in the next few years. Coaches are going to start making far less money and contracts will be a fraction of their current value. That will be nearly across the board as far more mouths will be at the money trough.

Pro football doesn't have that issue. Their business model is set and salaries should just continue to slowly climb for coaches. If coaches want to cash in or in some cases maintain their current income its going to be an attractive option.

NCAA coaches salaries aren't going down - they might not continue to increase at these rates, but no current successful coach is getting a salary decrease anytime soon (if ever). Not only that, but the job security here is 100x that of the job security at these **** NFL teams. Would you prefer 10 years making $5 million, or 2 years making $8 million?
 

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Pro football doesn't have that issue. Their business model is set and salaries should just continue to slowly climb for coaches. If coaches want to cash in or in some cases maintain their current income its going to be an attractive option.
There is not that large of a financial gap between NFL and NCAA coaching salaries anymore
 

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There is not that large of a financial gap between NFL and NCAA coaching salaries anymore
My point is the gap is going to grow in the coming years. Colleges are about to start reallocating alot of cash. Football coaches will likely be spared. Womens bball coaches are about to see a major reduction in contract size, as are every other staff in a non revenue sport.
 

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Not saying if he is a legit candidate or if he would go or not (the Tribune is a legit source, so if they say he’s expected to interview there at least have been discussions).

But if I’m a Bears fan I would not be enthused with a Campbell hire. They need someone who a.) has experience developing QBs in the NFL since they have to build around Williams and b.) is better on the offensive side of the ball rather than defensive (i.e. has history calling plays).

Campbell fits neither of those categories imo
 

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And he's still only 45.

Guy could coach another 30 years if he wants. I'm completely happy where I'm at, but if I got an interview request with a different organization for more prestige and money? Goddam right I'd take it, but odds are very high that I would pass.
I can’t disagree, but still- the Bears are the AT&T of NFL franchises. It’s the last place I’d go if I were someone that gets NFL HC interviews.
 

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Honestly, if I were an NFL owner I might want some of what CMC brings on my team, but nothing says NFL head coach. The O is not great and the D is an odd scheme that certainly isn't a great NFL fit.