*** Official "Yikes" Postgame Thread ***

mjhavlo76

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Frankly, regardless of what seed we get in the big dance, if we play like the way we have been playing recently we could very well go down in the 1st round!


I want to know how we win a single game in the tournament when we can't seem to play D or even play normal on the road? Hopefully we get a high enough seed that we avoid a 12 seed or lower, because if we do watch out ISU.

EDIT: When I say high enough seed I am talking about the team we are playing. If we are a 5 seed or lower I don't know if I like our chances to win.
 

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Melvin certainly looked flustered tonight, not just by his lack of scoring but by how he was missing passes to him that he normally handles.

The three from Kane to tie the game at 61 was huge, and then we couldn't do anything right after that. That's what scares me about this team, how it totally falls apart in the final two minutes of games.

The three point shooting, especially in the first half, was just unreal. It felt like it was the kind of game we've been waiting for all season ...

Really? A team closes out close game after close game all year long then fails to do so in two road games vs. tourney teams and they suddenly fall apart the last two minutes?
 

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I have no idea but it seems to me that this team plays worse together as the year goes on.

Seems as if there is a certain player that is kind of a "blamer".

lack of team chemistry

I think this team was something like 7-1 in the month of February. Playing good teams late in the season on the road may get you a few loses.
 

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I really like your coach and your team. They had a tough game tonight (except for Kane...does he ever freaking miss?) but Baylor is playing really well and desperately needed this win tonight. I'll be pulling for the Cyclones the rest of the year unless my Bears see you guys in the Big XII or NCAA tournament.


What have other teams done to break your zone? We didn't seem to be able to pass into the lane. In fact, trying to do so gave us a ton of turnovers that we aren't used to seeing.
 

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No one is saying we aren't getting in. The point that is whizzing over your head is the frustration that goes with wetting the bed in these games. This team had a great chance to win Saturday night and tonight, but they blew it. And that's too bad because a little better performance and we are looking at the best regular season conference record and highest tourney seeds since the Tinsley years.

You're not really giving any credit to the other teams. I wouldn't describe it as "wetting the bed". Letting big leads slip away or missing clutch free throws might fall under that category but losing a highly contested back and forth road game against a conference foe isn't "wetting the bed".
 

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Fred has to start recruiting more length. Athletic length. The common denominator in most of these losses... going back 2-3 years now... is the glaring disadvantage we have around the rim. God bless Hogue. That guy is a warrior. It's comical seeing him try to guard Austin and other similar post players.

He is recruiting length. Its just all the blue bloods are recruiting that same length and we cant beat them yet. Hoiberg has his system, he isnt going to take just any big. Give him a couple years, and everything will be just like you want it.
 

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All I have to say is MAN would I kill for UNC's second half schedule. They've played duke once at home, and then a whole lot of nobodies in the ACC. All the announcers are hyping them up but there are a lot of B12 teams who would feast on that schedule...
 

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Fred has to start recruiting more length. Athletic length. The common denominator in most of these losses... going back 2-3 years now... is the glaring disadvantage we have around the rim. God bless Hogue. That guy is a warrior. It's comical seeing him try to guard Austin and other similar post players.

Too bad we don't have McKay or someone like that coming in next season.
 

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Fred has to start recruiting more length. Athletic length. The common denominator in most of these losses... going back 2-3 years now... is the glaring disadvantage we have around the rim. God bless Hogue. That guy is a warrior. It's comical seeing him try to guard Austin and other similar post players.

The length he has recruited isn't panning out. I am sure he would love more athletic length, but those players are hard to get. He is getting the best players he can and making it work. Most of the time the length doesn't affect his teams.
 

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Are people really complaining about Fred not bringing players in with length? We will have plenty of length next year with Nader and McKay. (Nader seems to have a pretty long wingspan)
 

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This team has exceeded my expectations. As to Mel's and George's below average performance tonight, hey it happens. Can't be awesome every night. We play in a tough conference and wins on the road are never easy.

This is true, but "not awesome" is being, well, extremely kind. While I am a believer in shooters continuing to take open shots, tonight Ejim just needed to stop taking 3s. He was way off all night, we had Kane and Long scoring, we didn't need him to take those shots. The great thing about Ejim is that he can still be a difference maker even when shots aren't falling. There's nothing wrong with accepting that you're off for the night and start grinding down low.
 

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Fred has to start recruiting more length. Athletic length. The common denominator in most of these losses... going back 2-3 years now... is the glaring disadvantage we have around the rim. God bless Hogue. That guy is a warrior. It's comical seeing him try to guard Austin and other similar post players.

No offense, Fred is 5-2 all time vs Baylor and their fabled length, we do fine against them. Austin didn't do much tonight despite having a 6'6" guy on him, so if that is the type of length you are talking about, I don't want it, its soft and rarely plays hard. Jefferson finally showed me a something tonight, hats off to him, otherwise he has been just as ineffective as Austin against us in his career.

Have you seen Jameel McKay's game, I think you will be pleased with him. He is like Hogue but taller and longer. Nader is of a longer body type too.
 

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You're not really giving any credit to the other teams. I wouldn't describe it as "wetting the bed". Letting big leads slip away or missing clutch free throws might fall under that category but losing a highly contested back and forth road game against a conference foe isn't "wetting the bed".
Mel and Georges wet the bed tonight and we lost the game. Both very good players, but they were brutal tonight. You can admit it.
 

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I'm not in full meltdown mode like some of the spanks on here but that was awful. That said, our two leading scorers were as awful as they could be and it was a game against a team who played pretty well. Niang needs to stop it with the stupid fouls. When he isn't on the floor there is one guy who can create offense. Also, Long is pretty decent at getting to the rim and I would like to see him be more aggressive at times when people are running at him.

For the first time in maybe ever, I thought Fred coached a very bad game. It was fine when Kane was lighting it up but once they stopped him there was little action on the perimeter.

We have to face that we start no one over 6'7. If you have length, the book it out on us. Zone it up, stop Georges inside and make everyone shoot. I'm pretty down about that game but I'm also certain Niang and Ejim won't have a game like that from here on out. On the positive side of things, I think Naz is getting to be more consistent and I think Thomas is coming around. We will need one of those guys to step up.

Defensively, I don't get what we are doing with doubles. We double, force into the corner, they pick up their dribble and then we leave. When they pick that thing up, that should be a lock down double. I would really like someone to ask Doc what the strategy is there.
 

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What have other teams done to break your zone? We didn't seem to be able to pass into the lane. In fact, trying to do so gave us a ton of turnovers that we aren't used to seeing.

This was the most active I've seen our zone all season. Brady Heslip seemed like he got a hand on just about every High Post entry pass and that hasn't happened that often this year. If we play defense with that kind of effort and intensity the rest of the way, we are going to be tough...
 

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This is true, but "not awesome" is being, well, extremely kind. While I am a believer in shooters continuing to take open shots, tonight Ejim just needed to stop taking 3s. He was way off all night, we had Kane and Long scoring, we didn't need him to take those shots. The great thing about Ejim is that he can still be a difference maker even when shots aren't falling. There's nothing wrong with accepting that you're off for the night and start grinding down low.

I hope you never coach a team.
 

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Mel and Georges wet the bed tonight and we lost the game. Both very good players, but they were brutal tonight. You can admit it.

For me there's a big difference between good players playing like crap and being "brutal" and wetting the bed. That would imply they were scared, or hadn't been there before and didn't know where the potty is. History has shown that's not the case at all.
 

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This is true, but "not awesome" is being, well, extremely kind. While I am a believer in shooters continuing to take open shots, tonight Ejim just needed to stop taking 3s. He was way off all night, we had Kane and Long scoring, we didn't need him to take those shots. The great thing about Ejim is that he can still be a difference maker even when shots aren't falling. There's nothing wrong with accepting that you're off for the night and start grinding down low.

The problem tonight was Baylors bigs really had an impact in the lane tonight. This team doesn't shoot a lot of mid range jumpers, so all that leaves you with is shooting 3s.