Perfect time to mix things up

DRCHIRO

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Time to start McKay and sit Bryce. I've been a big fan of his but he can get a bit lazy. We'll need some size vs. Texas.
 

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Based on tonight's performance I don't know how you can argue that any of our shooting guards deserve to start over a big lineup of Hogue-McKay-Niang-Morris.

I say that's our lineup going forward and the 2 is the hot hand.

Matt was maybe our 4th best player tonight, but you'd think he was Hitler looking at the posts on the board.
 

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Oh hey, more overreaction. BDJ didn't play well today, neither did Naz. Bench him too? Hogue was so-so, start the Greek?

Idiots. You fools have no common sense to know starters in this system do not matter, guys get minutes based on performance and matchup. Starting lineup is just something for you to obsess over.
 

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Time to start McKay and sit Bryce. I've been a big fan of his but he can get a bit lazy. We'll need some size vs. Texas.

Yep. BDJ is certainly capable of being really good but since the Drake game with the exception of a few games he's been pretty "average."

Averaging 8 points, 5 rebounds, 2.4 assists, ~2 turnovers/game on 42% FG shooting, 16% 3 point shooting, and 54.5% FT shooting in the last 9 games in around 23 minutes per game of action. If you take away the Kansas and Bayor games, he's actually averaging 6.6 points/game. Not BAD numbers but not leader numbers either.

On the other hand, Jameel McKay is average 10.6 points, 5.8 rebounds, 2.4 blocks, 1.2 turnovers on 60.4% FG shooting and 52.3% FT shooting in 19 minutes per game.

McKay is actually averaging more points, rebounds and blocks and less turnovers on better FG shooting than BDJ in the last 9 games in 5 less minutes per game. BDJ has assists and FT shooting on him, but their FT shooting is almost equal.
 
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Not overreaction to this game, but so far through 1-1/2 seasons Matt Thomas is on the court more than I'd care to see. He is an absolute liability on defense-no one can argue otherwise that isn't blind. And when you combine it with his fg% lately I don't get why he plays as much as he does. But I trust fred.
 

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Oh hey, more overreaction. BDJ didn't play well today, neither did Naz. Bench him too? Hogue was so-so, start the Greek?

Idiots. You fools have no common sense to know starters in this system do not matter, guys get minutes based on performance and matchup. Starting lineup is just something for you to obsess over.

I agree, but it is a statement to somebody, and it does get players' attention. CFH has switched up his starting lineup every year.
 

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Maybe it's time for George's to come off the bench. He seems to play like xxxx the first 3/4 of the game unless he hits an early 3
 
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Matt was maybe our 4th best player tonight, but you'd think he was Hitler looking at the posts on the board.[/QUOTE]

Matt is on the floor to make shots and the coach and team did a great job of getting him open looks. Sorry, but he missed a ton of good shots today, and played marginal defense. I like the kid, and really, really wish he could become a 3 point threat, but he is just not making shots in games.
 

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Oh hey, more overreaction. BDJ didn't play well today, neither did Naz. Bench him too? Hogue was so-so, start the Greek?

Idiots. You fools have no common sense to know starters in this system do not matter, guys get minutes based on performance and matchup. Starting lineup is just something for you to obsess over.

Meh, not really over reacting but we tend to start a little slow and maybe a change in the starting lineup could change that. I'm not throwing him under the bus, just think we need something different to start the game.

I understand that the starting 5 doesn't really matter from a minutes standpoint, but its obvious we start a little slow. How would you handle that, genius?
 

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BDJ went 4-9 from the field (44%)
1 offensive board
5 total boards
1 Assist
2 Steals
2 turnovers
21 minutes

That's a solid game for only 21 minutes.

What lost the game is Chucking up 3's, lack of rebounding, and lack of defense. They had to have about 15 2nd chance points.
 
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BDJ went 4-9 from the field (44%)
1 offensive board
5 total boards
1 Assist
2 Steals
2 turnovers
21 minutes

Chucking up 3's, lack of rebounding, and lack of defense is what lost the game. They had to have about 15 2nd chance points.

He was OK today, but he's averaging 8 points and 5 rebounds a game in the last 9 games. McKay is averaging almsot 11 points and 6 rebounds/game in the same period in 5 less minutes on almost 20% better FG shooting than BDJ.

I like BDJ, but I think they should try mixing some things up for a little bit for sure.
 

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I like BDJ and I think he brings a different element but we need to do something with our slow starts. It was a matter of time before Fred did something.
Naz shot poorly tonight but is still a major threat and spreads the floor.
 

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I like BDJ and I think he brings a different element but we need to do something with our slow starts. It was a matter of time before Fred did something.
Naz shot poorly tonight but is still a major threat and spreads the floor.

I think it's more of a thing where McKay is bringing more than any 3 of our shooting guards in terms of consistency.

Hogue has shown he'll hit the wide open 3 when given it. We made our comeback with Hogue-McKay-Niang as the front line. McKay and Hogue run like guards so it's not like it slows us down.
 

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I like BDJ and I think he brings a different element but we need to do something with our slow starts. It was a matter of time before Fred did something.
Naz shot poorly tonight but is still a major threat and spreads the floor.

Does Naz essentially quitting tonight put him into the dog house? I wouldn't be surprised to see the following lineup against Texas.

Morris
Thomas
BDJ
Niang
Hogue

Fred's offense seems to run better with three guards on the floor. While Niang, Hogue, and McKay are all within our best five players I just don't think we play as well when all three are in the game.
 

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Does Naz essentially quitting tonight put him into the dog house? I wouldn't be surprised to see the following lineup against Texas.

Morris
Thomas
BDJ
Niang
Hogue

Fred's offense seems to run better with three guards on the floor. While Niang, Hogue, and McKay are all within our best five players I just don't think we play as well when all three are in the game.

No.

Matt's not starting, and I'm pretty sure Niang, Hogue, and McKay were the ones playing down the stretch today.
 

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I will say bdj needs to be more aggressive and use his athleticism to his advantage. Hes so smooth. Reminds me of clyburn because he always seems to be playing at a slow pace. Need more aggression bdj
 

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Oh hey, more overreaction. BDJ didn't play well today, neither did Naz. Bench him too? Hogue was so-so, start the Greek?

Idiots. You fools have no common sense to know starters in this system do not matter, guys get minutes based on performance and matchup. Starting lineup is just something for you to obsess over.

Exactly. I wish people would quit being lazy and at a minimum, look at the box score before posting. Bryce was clearly more productive than Long, yet you're not calling Long out? I've posted this before, but I'll say it again, rebounding is the least "lazy" thing you can do out there. Guess who leads the team in rebounding? Sheesh.
 

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Actually, starting lineup is extremely important for this team. Why?

Because in our two Big 12 road games, we've started out down 19 and down 17 in the first 5-10 minutes.

A solid starting lineup doesn't let you get punched in the nose that early.