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How are we defining "huge publicity win" in this context?
With the old adage that any publicity is good publicity? I guess I have my ISU cardinal colored glasses on and am assuming we will pull this off without huge issues. If it goes south, it will not be good publicity for ISU, but if they are correct and pull it off, lots of sports casters will be jawing about it.
This scene from Ghostbusters jumps to mind . . . .
 

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... So you take story county and add about cases from another third of the people but don’t divide by that, it makes it different than northwestern adding into Chicago. ...
... I don't think anyone should have been surprised by this, either. Even if there weren't parties (which is laughable), students by nature live in close quarters and have more community spaces. Most students interact with the community in some nature, so there is going to be community spread from them that will be trickling down coming up. ...
I agree with these comments.

Whatever else is in play, I think there are two elements to how high the rates are in Story and Johnson counties.

One is the already infected rate at ISU was 2.2 percent for something like the first three times this figure was reported. I believe that is relatively low compared to other places, and as I think it was BCClone pointed out, on this board, it likely reflects the rate in much of Iowa. So a lot of people are going to become infected, because they haven’t or hadn’t been exposed to it before (relative to other universities/ college towns). On the size of the university relative to the size of the college town, I saw a list or graphic in the last few days, I think at the NYT (maybe elsewhere), where Ames was first on that list by a long way, and maybe Iowa City third or fourth. I don’t recall that this was all college towns, but maybe just ones currently experiencing the highest rate of increases in infection right now.

The student population is a large part of many college towns. Iowa is a little different than most in that there is a large rural population, where many students are from, somewhat evenly distributed throughout the entire state.

By way of comparison, there would be more students at UW Madison from across the country and more from larger urban centers. And UM in Minneapolis is located in a large urban center.

Yet, mingling with students at ISU are students who aren’t from rural Iowa and were perhaps more likely to have exposed to it wherever they are from. And people in Ames who were as well.
 
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1214 active nfections for 8/31: https://iowacovid19tracker.org/story-county/

It went up by ~79, maybe that's what you're seeing?

Thanks Angie, now I understand. Yes 79 is the daily positive, down from 134 Sat, 232 on Fri and 165 on Thurs. Heading in the right direction after a sudden spike. Not sure if this is due to students returning or has as much to do with adding in and dumping antigen data, having really dug in to the specifics on that. Iowa City has had a bigger spike in daily numbers. I doubt a football game will make any difference myself, but we will be able to compare Iowa City (without any games) and Ames numbers. Although there are so many variables it may be meaningless.


I have a friend who is a professor at an east coast university, he says his students tell him he is the only one doing in person classes. (University policy is they are suppose to be 50% in person). What do you think a bunch of college students who have been locked away for 6 months now living in dorms, apartments and greek houses are going to do with very little class work going on. (My son in college tells me it takes him about 5 hours total a week to do all his distance learning.) So many precautions have unintended negative consequences.
 

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Thanks Angie, now I understand. Yes 79 is the daily positive, down from 134 Sat, 232 on Fri and 165 on Thurs. Heading in the right direction after a sudden spike. Not sure if this is due to students returning or has as much to do with adding in and dumping antigen data, having really dug in to the specifics on that. Iowa City has had a bigger spike in daily numbers. I doubt a football game will make any difference myself, but we will be able to compare Iowa City (without any games) and Ames numbers. Although there are so many variables it may be meaningless.


I have a friend who is a professor at an east coast university, he says his students tell him he is the only one doing in person classes. (University policy is they are suppose to be 50% in person). What do you think a bunch of college students who have been locked away for 6 months now living in dorms, apartments and greek houses are going to do with very little class work going on. (My son in college tells me it takes him about 5 hours total a week to do all his distance learning.) So many precautions have unintended negative consequences.

I didn’t think about the antigen tests on a county level. That messes things up even more.
 

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Not in the email to ticketholders, it wasn't. I haven't read everything from his press conference, perhaps he mentioned it there.
In the email there’s a link to the mitigation pdf. In that document, go to InGame—>seating and see the third bulletin point.
 

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In the email there’s a link to the mitigation pdf. In that document, go to InGame—>seating and see the third bulletin point.

Ah yes, I see it. I hadn't made my way through all the PDFs yet. Nice that they're leaving that option in case people are still uneasy open once people view the seating arrangements.
 
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This isn’t going to work. You may be able to spread them out seating wise, but it’s going to be pointless when everyone gets up to leave at halftime or at the end of the game breathing down everyone’s neck trying to get out of there.
 

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This isn’t going to work. You may be able to spread them out seating wise, but it’s going to be pointless when everyone gets up to leave at halftime or at the end of the game breathing down everyone’s neck trying to get out of there.

One thing about Jack Trice is even the common areas aren't enclosed (that I can think of?). I was at the TCU game last year and there were even some issues with side with plumbing or something and I don't recall it being that jammed.

A place like Camp Randall on the other hand where it's hallways is a different deal.
 

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Even with masks, 25,000 people inside a stadium is idiotic. Let’s put aside our love for watching live football here folks. Take off the football goggles. Iowa has the highest rate of COVID in the nation right now. Let’s not be dumb.

Give this one some time here as bigger schools in more populated places start to go back.

Between UW and UW-Milwaukee and the other UW system schools that are usually at 10,000 students, I'll be very surprised if WI doesn't have lots of days of 2-3,000 cases reported over the next month.