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1 person in doors could potentially infect all 50 people in a bar setting, and thats possible in every bar every night its open. It is virtually impossible for one person to do that in an outdoor stadium, even if 25,000 people are in attendance. Not all 25,000 people are going to be sitting next to the other 25,000. The only people at risk are those sitting right next to someone infected for a long period of time, so basically whatever group you're are with. There very well may be some infections that occur that way, but at least it will be easy to contact others in your group to notify them if you may have spread it to them.

25,000 outdoors is more spread than 50 outdoors. These businesses didn't have indoor service
 

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Hope Jamie and Co are ready for the media onslaught. Yahoo already picked this up and it's gaining on Twitter. I personally am not sure having fans there is a good idea, but I'm not in Ames, and I am not privy to daily COVID data, etc. Seems risky to me.
 

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Hope Jamie and Co are ready for the media onslaught. Yahoo already picked this up and it's gaining on Twitter. I personally am not sure having fans there is a good idea, but I'm not in Ames, and I am not privy to daily COVID data, etc. Seems risky to me.


That can't be good.
 

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25,000 outdoors is more spread than 50 outdoors. These businesses didn't have indoor service

I understand its not a consistent message from the state closing down bars with outdoor patios. I agree they should be allowed to stay open.
 
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Hope Jamie and Co are ready for the media onslaught. Yahoo already picked this up and it's gaining on Twitter. I personally am not sure having fans there is a good idea, but I'm not in Ames, and I am not privy to daily COVID data, etc. Seems risky to me.


Is Yahoo still a thing?
 
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Hope Jamie and Co are ready for the media onslaught. Yahoo already picked this up and it's gaining on Twitter. I personally am not sure having fans there is a good idea, but I'm not in Ames, and I am not privy to daily COVID data, etc. Seems risky to me.


"Risky" is the operative word here. Theoretically, being outdoors along with social distancing and masks should be relatively okay, and keep these games from being weekly super-spreader events, but that's assuming people comply (extremely doubtful) and rules are enforced (also doubtful). Either way, it's definitely creating risk.
 

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"Risky" is the operative word here. Theoretically, being outdoors along with social distancing and masks should be relatively okay, and keep these games from being weekly super-spreader events, but that's assuming people comply (extremely doubtful) and rules are enforced (also doubtful). Either way, it's definitely creating risk.

This is why I think while intentions and regulations are all fine and good, but the chances of being successful are extremely slim to me...no matter how strong the measures are. Is there an event so far this large that has NOT ended up being a COVID spreader?
 

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Have you been to Alluvial or Torrent? Outdoor seating, masks, distancing and a fraction of the people. Forcing these businesses to close while allowing 25,000 to attend a football game is the definition not insanity.

It seems like the state of Iowa has tried to keep businesses open but unfortunately it’s Iowa’s turn to pop up in this game of whack-a-mole. And at some point, life just isn’t fair to businesses just like it isn’t fair to people.
 
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It seems like the state of Iowa has tried to keep businesses open but unfortunately it’s Iowa’s turn to pop up in this game of whack-a-mole. And at some point, life just isn’t fair to businesses just like it isn’t fair to people.

Some businesses just won't bounce back unless we truly get this thing under control. Bars, theaters, concerts, sports, things like that. Just having them open isn't enough to keep them profitable, if the virus levels increase people won't go even if a governor has an "always open" strategy.

I want to visit my older family and not worry. I'm not going to go to baseball/football/basketball games with 10s of thousands and then go see them afterwards. Same for crowded indoor bars. Same for movie theaters (even though my livelihood depends on that one).

If we had the #s some other countries had that may be a different story, I don't know for sure.

My hope for this ISU football news specifically is that the advantage of being outside is even greater than has been reported. It's the only way I can see this as remotely wise.
 
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Some businesses just won't bounce back unless we truly get this thing under control. Bars, theaters, concerts, sports, things like that. Just having them open isn't enough to keep them profitable, if the virus levels increase people won't go even if a governor has an "always open" strategy.

I want to visit my older family and not worry. I'm not going to go to baseball/football/basketball games with 10s of thousands and then go see them afterwards. Same for crowded indoor bars. Same for movie theaters (even though my livelihood depends on that one).

If we had the #s some other countries had that may be a different story, I don't know for sure.

My hope for this ISU football news specifically is that the advantage of being outside is even greater than has been reported. It's the only way I can see this as remotely wise.

We should’ve just taken the hit back in the spring, no doubt. I went to a wedding with 60 people two weeks ago and at least eight people got it, all with symptoms including the groom and the bride’s father. It’s no joke, and the UV rays from sunlight aren’t stopping it.
 
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We should’ve just taken the hit back in the spring, no doubt. I went to a wedding with 60 people two weeks ago and at least eight people got it, all with symptoms including the groom and the bride’s father. It’s no joke, and the UV rays from sunlight aren’t stopping it.

Yikes.

My friend from Chicago just postponed his Oct Arizona wedding. Couldn't handle exposing older relatives, plus he's a doctor and maybe there's some responsibility there as well.

Do you feel like you avoided it because you behaved differently? I mean who really knows but curious if you were cautious and others were hanging on each other drunk with no mask etc...it's hard to blame people acting that way at a wedding. 8/60 is really quite a lot.
 

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Yikes.

My friend from Chicago just postponed his Oct Arizona wedding. Couldn't handle exposing older relatives, plus he's a doctor and maybe there's some responsibility there as well.

Do you feel like you avoided it because you behaved differently? I mean who really knows but curious if you were cautious and others were hanging on each other drunk with no mask etc...it's hard to blame people acting that way at a wedding. 8/60 is really quite a lot.

Oh no, I just got lucky. I slept on the bride and grooms couch that night and four people sleeping in that house ended up with covid.
 
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Does anyone know how many tickets are sold / accounted for? I imagine they are counting on quite a few no shows...
THIS number is arbitrary. You do have to have a ticket. No one that has a ticket will get turned away. I expect half that many, if the weather is good.
 

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One would think you'd start out no fans then ease into it, nope Pollard ramming ahead full steam.
If you pay attention to how Jamie runs the show, his move here shouldn’t be a total surprise.
 

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Interesting comment.
So people will 100% follow the rules because they want football, but not to protect themselves and their follow citizens.
Sadly, I think you might be correct, but I will go with 99%. Speaks to our values of our society.
I completely agree with you. It is sad. 'Respect' seems to be a lost value.
 

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I completely agree with you. It is sad. 'Respect' seems to be a lost value.
It’s about where people place value. They don’t place value, for whatever the array of reasons, on masks in social situations in which there is no reward to them for doing so. There is a big reward for wearing, or value, them so they will slap them on.

What would be really interesting is to get data on the number mask wearing fans leaving the stadium after a win vs after a loss. If people inherently don’t value them, then after a loss I would guess many will say f*ck this and take it off to walk to their car.
 
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