I'll assume those bashing Pollards eye for talent immediately knew that Chizick, Rhoads and McDermott were bad hires. It seemed to me that most were pretty happy at the time.
Pollard's last chance?
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Campbell is certainly a solid hire.
But I wouldn't go by what the national media says The national media always raves about ISU FB hires. And that's based on the perception of Iowa State being Iowa State.When was the last time you remember them saying saying we hired a bad coach?
Being an AD at Iowa State is not just judged by the hire of the football coach. Btw we are currently ranked 4th in basketball. Pollard mad that hire also.
I doubt we will ever have a more aggressive and committed AD than pollard.
If I were running a top 10 athletic department and needed to hire an AD I'd pick him up in a flash. I don't doubt he's had chances to leave given the success of Hoiball era, our overall director's cup performance and football attendance bucking national trends to break records even with a losing team.
If I were running a top 10 athletic department and needed to hire an AD I'd pick him up in a flash. I don't doubt he's had chances to leave given the success of Hoiball era, our overall director's cup performance and football attendance bucking national trends to break records even with a losing team.
Yep, I'll be patiently waiting for links to the lengthy threads bashing those hires at the time. Our even pieces from the media at the time questioning the quality of those hires. I have a feeling i will be waiting a long time. Lots of Monday morning quarterbacking going on with the haters.
Pollard made his move and got his guy early. Excellent.
Also demonstrated he was able to realize the team was good and competitive needed someone who would win with the current players and not make drastic changes and need new guys.
Hes done well with the 2 coaching changes that came his way in the last year. One was always going to be awkward making the football transition smooth deserves credit.
Compare the situation to my Orangemen since they are similar jobs. We just hired our AD specifically from Boise for this purpose too the board of trustees saw a coaching change in FB would be coming and hired an AD accordingly its not an incumbent AD making the hire so if he doesn't have Frost signed on the dot by tomorrow he might not have failed but he didn't execute the firing/rehiring as well as expected. (Orgeron it sounds like is the back up plan he coached at SU and I'd say don't count out the EWU coach I'd put my money on one of them if Frost takes something like UVA instead.) Glad this guy is leading the search in fact Im thrilled but a swing and miss is a swing and miss. Pollard got it done immediately.
Also demonstrated he was able to realize the team was good and competitive needed someone who would win with the current players and not make drastic changes and need new guys.
Hes done well with the 2 coaching changes that came his way in the last year. One was always going to be awkward making the football transition smooth deserves credit.
Compare the situation to my Orangemen since they are similar jobs. We just hired our AD specifically from Boise for this purpose too the board of trustees saw a coaching change in FB would be coming and hired an AD accordingly its not an incumbent AD making the hire so if he doesn't have Frost signed on the dot by tomorrow he might not have failed but he didn't execute the firing/rehiring as well as expected. (Orgeron it sounds like is the back up plan he coached at SU and I'd say don't count out the EWU coach I'd put my money on one of them if Frost takes something like UVA instead.) Glad this guy is leading the search in fact Im thrilled but a swing and miss is a swing and miss. Pollard got it done immediately.
Dude. Were you a fan during the BVDV years? Did none of you live through 2000?
Let's break down the hires:
- McDermott- local Iowa boy, had great success at UNI. Was a very solid hire, popular with the fans.
- Brought in Chizik. Hindsight being 20/20, we know now that this turned out poorly. But I was here on CF during that hire. I was at the pressed when the smoke filled Hilton and the crowd went nuts. Almost everyone was pumped about that hire, as he was all flash and excitement. It was a great get at the time.
- Cael. ISU alum. Olympian. Left for $$$ and facilities.
- Rhoads. Iowa boy, solid choice after Chizik's flashiness didn't pan out. Popular hire.
- Fred. Gave him a HC job despite zero experience. That wasn't luck, it was faith.
- Prohm. Working out so far.
He has filled the stadium to capacity, built two practice facilities, bowled in the end zone, sold out record MBB season tickets, and done it all with a very sick son.
We are Iowa State. We are a great school, with several disadvantages. Little local talent due to small population, cold weather, not much interesting to an 18-year-old in town. Not much tradition of great accomplishments or national exposure. Don't have the huge donors of Notre Dame, Texas. Despite all of these challenges, JP has achieved.
What EXACTLY do you expect?
Tired of Iowa State fans trying to eat its own. Your complaining and delusional comments will do nothing. Pollard is here for a long time. Even if this hire is a failure it will have zero affect on his job status. As previously said all the hires at the time were applauded on all fronts. Cyclone fans love being right in hindsight. Very easy to do by the way. Stop complaining and start supporting. Nobody on this board has the power to fire a coach/AD/president.
If Leath thinks we are going to turn into a FB powerhouse, he is delusional. Just getting to a bowl more often than not is probably a best-case scenario.
I never said that Pollard hasn't been good. In fact he has been and still is a great AD. I just don't know that he will ever be able to take us to the next level. Maybe there isn't anyone that can, but that is a different discussion.
I think of Pollard as the AD that can rebuild a school from little to nothing. I just don't know that he will ever get any school to be the best.
What is the next level? Seriously, what do you want? For the most part all of our teams our competitive in the B12. Yes, there are some exceptions, but we compete. Conference championships come down to coaching, luck and what the competition is doing, not the AD. If you are talking about national championships, so much of that is luck of the draw that the AD can't control.
We have fantastic facilities, so we are on a level playing field with the other schools in the B12.
To be fair I have high hopes for Prohm but we won't know for a few years if it's a successful hire or not. Fred and Cael chose ISU long before JP chose them, and they were no brainer hires under the circumstances. Fred wanted the job when JP fired a coach who had never had a losing season to hire a coach who never had a winning season. Bobby Douglas was very open about grooming Cael to be the head coach. Had he not hired those ISU legends JP may not be here.
I doubt it. Chizik and Gmac were free passes. Rhoads wasn't a total failure(3 bowls over the first 4 years) plus attendance records during the last 3. Add top facilities plus a homerun hire for Fred and a lot of positive feelings towards Prohm. Pollard is all about ISU and had taken is to new heights...
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