Yes our FB has sucked but we still had a seat at the big boy table. There was always a chance at a major upset or even a special season with national recognition.
PSA: Iowa State’s Ceiling In Any Sport
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It is better, if they're truly the best. The whole point of the tournaments is to find out who is best in the sport.
If it gets to the point where all 1 seeds win by 30+ pt margins and the 8th man on their bench is better than the lower seeds' starters, then I'm with you and would say something needs to change in the sport if nothing is competitive.
The 1 seeds (except Duke) all had competitive games in round of 32. Some of those 8/9 seeds definitely had good chances to win, they just didn't because 1 seeds were slightly better.
I'm obviously going far one way to prove a point vs the "there has to be upsets or it sucks" crowd by using all 1 seed argument, but people don't always say what they truly want, though.
As a quick, silly example off top of my head, I think a Final Four with: two 12 seeds, a 15 seed, and a 14 seed would suck donkey balls by comparison. It wouldn't be high-quality basketball and no one would really think "hey, we found the best team in CBB".
It's supposed to be really hard for the higher seed teams to win. And I think we're just going to have a more "chalk" year from time to time. There's plenty of tournament left, it sucks that our Cyclones are out, but i think the Sweet 16, Elite 8, and ultimately Final Four could produce some REALLY good games with VERY high quality basketball. That's what I want to see later in this bracket. Close, exciting games. I'm not gonna judge it after the first weekend of a 3 week tourney.
College Sports is different, but it doesn't suck, at least not yet. The college tournaments are both still a lot of fun. I'll join you if/when we move to a 2 megaconference only league. I have no doubt many things we really used to love will suck in college sports once that happens.
It's NIL now but they will both be the same next season, and there can be NIL outside of the school NIL
TV revenue hasn’t actually been a factor much yet outside of coaches salaries/buyouts and facilities. Once colleges can directly pay the players, THEN it will. So it’ll only get worse.
Yep. I agree with c dubs takes on several things... but i don't buy bringing nil in house will help at all. There's still going ti be the megadonors paying out the ass for a single appearance.
Yes I know all of that but it’s really shifted once the media deals set in. Look at how many perennial losing programs have risen up olin both football and basketball in the Big 10 and SEC.
They have more money for better coaches, better resources, more recruiting budget, AND can tell their donors to reallocate their donations to go to NIL. That’s where it really ties together.
If you can tell a couple of donors “we need you yearly contributions for XXX but we can use that money to go straight to players.”
We can’t do that.
You don’t think coaching salaries matter? You don’t think those school are redirecting huge donors money to players instead of a regular donation?
Agree 100%, but in Basketball, it’s not just ISU, when 2 of your top 3 guards are out/severely hobbled, no team is going to make a deep run in the tourney. It would take miracle to fill those spots, no matter how deep your bench is. I know a lot of people are throwing the injury bug out the window as just an excuse, but especially in basketball you just don’t replace 2 of your top 3 that easily.
Only one team is going to have a great last game, so enjoy the good times while they happen. The ending certainly sucked, but it was a pretty fun season over all.
Yep, which is why I'm saying the sooner the top of the SEC/B1G breaks off, the better for the rest of us.
You know why NFL is popular? Parity.
College sports ks going the way of MLB where the big boys own all and no one else can compete long-term. NCAA needs a salary cap or pool for players. This wild west nonsense needs to stop, which is one reason I won't donate to an NIL. I don't want to proactively encourage a terrible system.
College sports ks going the way of MLB where the big boys own all and no one else can compete long-term. NCAA needs a salary cap or pool for players. This wild west nonsense needs to stop, which is one reason I won't donate to an NIL. I don't want to proactively encourage a terrible system.
I’m really hoping the SEC’s performance this weekend is just a one-off and not an indicator that their money is going to move them into the #1 slot for basketball as well moving forward.
Yeah I don’t look forward to be on the level of SDSU and UNI so I will disagree with you on that.
I think it depends on if this $21.5mil "salary cap" allows outside money or not, but looks like it will.
This isn't proactive encouragement. It's ISU fighting to staying alive.
I agree it sucks.
The B12 is worth more than that, thats like saying UNI is worth the same as Coe College after this.
