Question regarding DSM police

tm3308

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Don't ever say anything to the police. Don't ever even fess up to minor things most people think will help build the relationship.

Believe me, I don't intend to. I'll talk with the cops tomorrow morning and not admit to anything. I want to know exactly what (if any) charges I'm facing before determining whether or not I need a lawyer.
 

cyrocksmypants

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Just a suggestion, but it is unwise to ever admit guilt to a possible crime on the internet because it can be used against you. You are better off just keeping quiet about it, and that includes using your constitutional right to remain silent if the police were to approach you regarding this. If you start opening up to them on this and that they will also use that against you. If you are quiet the burden of proof is on them, and they are probably just fishing, otherwise you would probably have cops at your doorstep instead of calling you, if that is even the reason they were calling you in the first place. Just my 2 cents.

That's why I DIDN'T kill a hobo and dump him in a river in Minneapolis my senior year in college....
 

Cyclonesince78

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Believe me, I don't intend to. I'll talk with the cops tomorrow morning and not admit to anything. I want to know exactly what (if any) charges I'm facing before determining whether or not I need a lawyer.

Cops have a way of getting info even if you think "you're not admitting to anything". You've been warned.
 

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Cops have a way of getting info even if you think "you're not admitting to anything". You've been warned.
Then they wonder why people don't like them. I have never had a good interaction with cops unless you count DARE or taking a tour of the police station with cub scouts.
 

Me State

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Always be honest and admit to everything you did wrong when speaking to the police.
 

ISUCubswin

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I guess I don't get the whole "call a lawyer" thing. I would never admit to anything I did wrong, but I'd be honest with them. When I would stop talking is when they officially press charges. If you are honest and the cops think it's enough to press charges, that's when you hire the lawyer.

If you demand to speak to your lawyer before the cop even says anything you did wrong, you already look suspicious. Some of you need to watch Cops.
 

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I would tread very cautiously here. We have a friend ofthe family in Atlanta driving on 285 (big city by-pass) in Atlanta onerainy afternoon last fall. Car stops in front of her. She swerves to avoid, butgrazes the car causing just minor plastic scrapes. Someone plows into herfrom behind, and then a minor chain reaction resulted.

She took a pretty good rap on the forehead and is 80+, so was understandablymentally stressed and rattled. Traffic cop comes up to interview her, and shetells about swerving to avoid the stopped cars and then getting hit. Guy wasnice as pie to her.

She finds out from talking to some of the other drivers involved, the cars werestopped in front of her because another fender bender had just happened. So inreality, she was just in the middle of a longer chain reaction. Side note, noambulances were called and she probably was the worst off physically with herhead knock.

She gets called to traffic court and here are 2 people in the accident withneck braces and lawyers wanting damages. The cop testified she was at fault andused her repeated responses to his questions about what happened of 'I'm notsure' against her.

She tried to get other people involved to testify, but they were too busy. Herinsurance company thought she was guilty, so a pay-off the cheapest route.She consulted a lawyer, but he said at this point there wasn't much he could doto reverse the 'at-fault' decision.

Bottom line, she got nailed for the whole accident. If it were me, I wouldn’tsay anything ,but what I did/saw. I wouldn’t speculate on anything. If my gutsensor went off that something wasn’t kosher, I would consult with our lawyerbefore heading to court. Unfortunately, my trust level for people doing theright thing isn’t as high as when I was younger.

 

CysRage

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Your question may be better suited on an Iowa message board since Iowa actually has a law school..actually let's be real, nobody who posts on hawkeye nation actually went to Iowa. Nevermind.
 

Cyclonepride

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I guess I don't get the whole "call a lawyer" thing. I would never admit to anything I did wrong, but I'd be honest with them. When I would stop talking is when they officially press charges. If you are honest and the cops think it's enough to press charges, that's when you hire the lawyer.

If you demand to speak to your lawyer before the cop even says anything you did wrong, you already look suspicious. Some of you need to watch Cops.

I think you need to watch the news instead of Cops.
 

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When I forward a copy of this thread to the DSM Police, should I give it the subject "Hawkeye ******* Editor of Student Paper Causes Accident" or "Hawkeye Dip-**** Editor of Student Paper Causes Accident"?

I really can't decide.
 

CYvilEng

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But when I took the same route back to downtown no more than 10 minutes later, there was no sign of anything having happened, so it would seem like whatever accident took place was very minor.

I can almost guarantee the dmpd did not show up to an accident in under 10 min. I was involved in a hit and run last year 4 blocks from the police station and it took longer than 30 min before they arrived.

It also took over 2 months to get it worked out even though a witness followed the runner and got their license plate and the description of the driver. The owner fixed the car before taking to the police and then denied driving in the area. They didn't press charges bc they needed the owner to admit what happened and that was never going to happen.
 

Erik4Cy

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Don't ever say anything to the police. Don't ever even fess up to minor things most people think will help build the relationship.

This. Don't say a word.

Why do people talk to police?

I don't hate police so don't misconstrue my words. But people are SO egotistical and believe they can talk their way out of anything whether they be guilty or not.

If a circumstance arises where you MAY be implicated in a crime...or not; Just don't talk to police. You have the legal right to just say nothing.

I can't believe the amount of people who just say "Oh, I'll just talk to the police and explain my story and they'll see I'm not guilty" or "I can talk my way out of it" yada yada yada...Just shut your mouth. Whatever you say to the cops won't HELP you, they are only looking for something that can HURT you. Nothing beneficial comes from it. You have the right to remain silent. USE THE FIFTH AMENDMENT. Cops may act like they don't like you or even like you have something coming to you if you don't talk, but they only want you to talk in hopes you are dumb enough to implicate yourself (whether you are actually guilty or not.)
 

VeloClone

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You could take the tack of not talking to the police in any circumstance or you could man up and admit if you actually did something wrong. It is called personal responsibility. Just because you can get away with doing something wrong and make someone else pay the consequences doesn't mean that you should. If it is your fault and you know it, own up to it. Don't be a coward.

And for those that said never tell the police anything, I'm sure all of the parents who have children who have turned up missing or dead and no one seems to have seen anything appreciate that attitude.
 

jkclone

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You could take the tack of not talking to the police in any circumstance or you could man up and admit if you actually did something wrong. It is called personal responsibility. Just because you can get away with doing something wrong and make someone else pay the consequences doesn't mean that you should. If it is your fault and you know it, own up to it. Don't be a coward.

And for those that said never tell the police anything, I'm sure all of the parents who have children who have turned up missing or dead and no one seems to have seen anything appreciate that attitude.

The problem is it doesn't matter if you did something wrong or not. The cops that I have dealt with are much more interested in finding someone who possibly could have done it and punishing them than actually finding the responsible party.


Now I'd be much more willing to talk to them if it involved a missing person or something but when you are talking about petty stuff like this is most likely then I wouldn't talk to them.
 

tm3308

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Turns out it's not going to be a big deal. I apparently had gotten rear-ended and the person who was behind me had tried to report it, so it was initially reported as a hit and run. When the cop told me that, I looked at my bumper again and there was a very minor scuff on the back. I told him that I was so focused on avoiding the potential accident that I didn't even feel the bump from behind. I knew I'd successfully avoided hitting the guy in front of me and so I thought everything was fine and kept going. The "damage" to my car isn't worth replacing a back bumper (no dents or cracks, just a scuff), so I won't be sticking it to her on that. Just going to exchange insurance info with her, since she did give hers to a beat cop in the report.

Crisis averted. I'm not going to prison. So you guys are just going to have to put up with me for awhile longer.
 

VeloClone

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Turns out it's not going to be a big deal.

You should have taken many posters' advice and not spoken to the police. They were clearly trying to **** you. It would have been much better for you to be looking over your shoulder for the next year or so wondering if there was a warrant out for your arrest.







:jimlad:
 

jkclone

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You should have taken many posters' advice and not spoken to the police. They were clearly trying to **** you. It would have been much better for you to be looking over your shoulder for the next year or so wondering if there was a warrant out for your arrest.







:jimlad:

Calling back to see what they want isn't the same thing. If there was an actual issue you don't talk to them more than you absolutely need to.