Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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This is absolutely wild. Per this guys article, one of the Pac 12's best options is Phil Knight becoming an "equity partner" in the conference. Letting a rich superfan of the league's most powerful remaining school own stake in the conference?? That sure sounds fair. Would be shocked if that happens and even more shocked if schools sit around and let it happen
If Knight has enough liquid assets to prop up the PAC 12, he could set up an endowment for OU's AD, and basically Oregon could offer up to join the Big 10 at a crazy discount indefinitely. A $2B endowment probably gets them in the Big 10 range. So I don't think for Oregon it is about the money, it's about maintaining exposure, relevance and playoff access. So I don't think propping up the PAC 12 makes much sense.
 

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Some of those guys get it. But man the ones that want to stay, that is a huge risk. There is no guarantee the Big 12 always has a spot for all these schools. Not hard to imagine cal and Stanford leaving, and big 12 takes only Oregon an Washington, and 2 of Utah, Arizona, Colorado and ASU.

I would be getting while the getting is good. Really short sighted to wait if I am one of the 4 corners. Just huge risk for those schools right now.
What I don't get at his point is that if you are Colorado and Arizona, what do you have to gain by staying. IMO the writing is on the wall. Those two have to be really close to making the jump, which will force Oregon and Washington to maker a decision.
 

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Not exactly sure.
If Knight has enough liquid assets to prop up the PAC 12, he could set up an endowment for OU's AD, and basically Oregon could offer up to join the Big 10 at a crazy discount indefinitely. A $2B endowment probably gets them in the Big 10 range. So I don't think for Oregon it is about the money, it's about maintaining exposure, relevance and playoff access. So I don't think propping up the PAC 12 makes much sense.
If you are NW, Illinois, Maryland, Iowa,etc, you vote down unequal sharing for UO. Once you open that door……..
 
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how can both things in that headline be true? its like saying 'the sky is falling' and 'the ground is moving away from sky at the exact rate of falling' simultaneously.
Typical from this guy. His points on what he learned were like listing a bunch of the most reasonable options from a message board.

But the best is his "source" about the Big 12 trying to poach teams. So, your source says he's not heard or been involved with anything. Yet Kliavkov lobs grenades at media day clearly talking about the Big 12 trying to poach teams. So your source is terrible or Kliavkov is a moron. Well, I'm pretty sure the latter is true at least.
 

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This is absolutely wild. Per this guys article, one of the Pac 12's best options is Phil Knight becoming an "equity partner" in the conference. Letting a rich superfan of the league's most powerful remaining school own stake in the conference?? That sure sounds fair. Would be shocked if that happens and even more shocked if schools sit around and let it happen
How would that even work? Purchasing some equity in the conference, okay, interesting idea, but I'm confused as how this would work for the PAC unless their "equity partner" was just pumping several million into the conference to prop up their distributions. Is there something I don't understand?
 

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How would that even work? Purchasing some equity in the conference, okay, interesting idea, but I'm confused as how this would work for the PAC unless their "equity partner" was just pumping several million into the conference to prop up their distributions. Is there something I don't understand?

I don't have an answer to your questions, but one thing I've learned over the years is if you have to ask if there is something you don't understand, the answer is usually yes.
 
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Pretty sure every new B1G member not named USC or UCLA has entered at a reduced cut that increases yearly until eventually getting a full cut.

I don’t know if any school that’s moved that hasn’t gotten reduced sharing for a period of time until they reached full share.
 
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How would that even work? Purchasing some equity in the conference, okay, interesting idea, but I'm confused as how this would work for the PAC unless their "equity partner" was just pumping several million into the conference to prop up their distributions. Is there something I don't understand?
The only thing I can think of is he's trying to set up a deal where the remaining Pac-12 schools (and potentially some more schools) sign a new GOR-like agreement to stick together and he floats them short-term (to make sticking with the conference and other appealing schools join), then he gets back-end later in the deal. He would work in conjunction with the ESPN and conference to get their revenue up short-term (probably including some kind of Nike deal and potentially even cold, hard cash) to basically will the Pac-12 to be the third major conference. In exchange, he would get some of the TV money later in the deal when the Pac-12 is established as the third major conference.

I'm not saying it would work, but there's probably a path there.
 
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The only thing I can think of is he's trying to set up a deal where the remaining Pac-12 schools (and potentially some more schools) sign a new GOR-like agreement to stick together and he floats them short-term (to make sticking with the conference and other appealing schools join), then he gets back-end later in the deal. He would work in conjunction with the ESPN and conference to get their revenue up short-term (probably including some kind of Nike deal and potentially even cold, hard cash) to basically will the Pac-12 to be the third major conference. In exchange, he would get some of the TV money later in the deal when the Pac-12 is established as the third major conference.

I'm not saying it would work, but there's probably a path there.
Okay, I looked it up and Phil Knight is worth quite a bit more than I imagined. I mean, I knew he was rich, I just didn't realize he was coming in at 24th in the world with $43.8 billion.

So yeah, plunking down something like $50 or $60m per year to close the gap between the PAC and Big XII wouldn't really make much a dent in his wallet. It's a **** investment, but he's probably not really looking to recoup his investment. I just wonder how sustainable that is long term, especially considering he's well into his 80s.
 

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I don’t know if any school that’s moved that hasn’t gotten reduced sharing for a period of time until they reached full share.
USC and UCLA do not have a buy in period, they are coming on board as full member schools when they join in 2024.
 
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Okay, I looked it up and Phil Knight is worth quite a bit more than I imagined. I mean, I knew he was rich, I just didn't realize he was coming in at 24th in the world with $43.8 billion.

So yeah, plunking down something like $50 or $60m per year to close the gap between the PAC and Big XII wouldn't really make much a dent in his wallet. It's a **** investment, but he's probably not really looking to recoup his investment. I just wonder how sustainable that is long term, especially considering he's well into his 80s.
but $50M just to Oregon doesn't do anything for the rest of the PAC, so border/other schools should still be looking. Unless PK wants to drop $500M annually to the conference to placate the other schools.
 

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but $50M just to Oregon doesn't do anything for the rest of the PAC, so border/other schools should still be looking. Unless PK wants to drop $500M annually to the conference to placate the other schools.
I was just throwing a rough estimate of the Big XII making $5-$6m more than the PAC per school, per year. Knight could "donate" or "invest" to close the gap for each of the schools - $50-$60m per year, whatever it is.
 

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Okay, I looked it up and Phil Knight is worth quite a bit more than I imagined. I mean, I knew he was rich, I just didn't realize he was coming in at 24th in the world with $43.8 billion.

So yeah, plunking down something like $50 or $60m per year to close the gap between the PAC and Big XII wouldn't really make much a dent in his wallet. It's a **** investment, but he's probably not really looking to recoup his investment. I just wonder how sustainable that is long term, especially considering he's well into his 80s.
I’d be curious how much of his net worth is spoken for though, given his charitable donations and partnership bid on the trailblazers among other things.
 

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I was just throwing a rough estimate of the Big XII making $5-$6m more than the PAC per school, per year. Knight could "donate" or "invest" to close the gap for each of the schools - $50-$60m per year, whatever it is.
Exactly this. He could also give the schools premium Nike deals when their current gear deals are up, maybe even some kind of conference gear deal where they're collectively negotiated as well to placate shareholders (starting when each individual school's deal is up).
 

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Okay, I looked it up and Phil Knight is worth quite a bit more than I imagined. I mean, I knew he was rich, I just didn't realize he was coming in at 24th in the world with $43.8 billion.

So yeah, plunking down something like $50 or $60m per year to close the gap between the PAC and Big XII wouldn't really make much a dent in his wallet. It's a **** investment, but he's probably not really looking to recoup his investment. I just wonder how sustainable that is long term, especially considering he's well into his 80s.
I think Phil is scared to death of UO being left out and possibly relegated to a MWC situation. Obviously that would look bad for UO, but more importantly, that would look bad for Phil Knight.