Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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If the B1G does not take Washington and Oregon then I would not be surprised if they go to the ACC. Travel is out the window. Stanford, Cal, the mountain schools maybe also (probably not all of them). Whoever is left over would have to go to the Big 12 then if we wanted them. They would make more money in the ACC than in the Big 12 if they joined the ACC
If they DON'T go to the ACC, the ACC has a big problem...the SEC will now have their sights on the best ACC properties. Stand by for the P2...
 
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I think they would take take risk. As much as the Big12 could posture they join now or be left out, they are probably comfortable that if a Big10 bid doesn't come then the Big12 would take them at any point down the line.

I have a tough time believing the Big10 is done. USC & UCLA are isolated from the rest of the Big10 territory. Far different than OU & Texas which are in SEC territory.

If the Big10 isn't done, I'd be surprised if the SEC is done.
I agree the b10 is not finished nor the SEC, but they want the schools from the ACC.

Everyone has to assume that Oregan and Washington want to be in the B10, they applied for membership last night it being reported, and the B10 said they were done expanding at this time, but they said the same thing last year.

The B10 wants to buy time to see what ND and the ACC schools are going to do, that is why the B12 needs to invite the 4 Pac12 schools now, if they want to sit and do nothing, then turn to and invite CU and, Utah,. Both of them may be thinking like Mizzu was thinking and they do not want to be left standing when the music stops and will jump at the chance to get set now. The GOR for all Pac 12 schools are up in 2024, taking CU and Utah forces the hand of Oregan, Washinton, Stanford and Cal, do they not want to stay in an 8-team league, and add San Diego and Boise, or do they make a better choice and join the B12.

I am sure they will go back to the B10 first and ask them again, that is their preferred landing spot, but if the B10 doesn't jump and grab them, then one would think they would be forced to join the B12 to stay viable.
 

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Don't think the B12 can proactively contact schools. Schools have to reach out to us and not sure that is going to happen until it is known that Oregon and Washington are leaving.
 
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I agree the b10 is not finished nor the SEC, but they want the schools from the ACC.

Everyone has to assume that Oregan and Washington want to be in the B10, they applied for membership last night it being reported, and the B10 said they were done expanding at this time, but they said the same thing last year.

The B10 wants to buy time to see what ND and the ACC schools are going to do, that is why the B12 needs to invite the 4 Pac12 schools now, if they want to sit and do nothing, then turn to and invite CU and, Utah,. Both of them may be thinking like Mizzu was thinking and they do not want to be left standing when the music stops and will jump at the chance to get set now. The GOR for all Pac 12 schools are up in 2024, taking CU and Utah forces the hand of Oregan, Washinton, Stanford and Cal, do they not want to stay in an 8-team league, and add San Diego and Boise, or do they make a better choice and join the B12.

I am sure they will go back to the B10 first and ask them again, that is their preferred landing spot, but if the B10 doesn't jump and grab them, then one would think they would be forced to join the B12 to stay viable.
ASU, AU, UT and Co will most likely be available. JP has to be talking to his buddy and seeing what Oregon is thinking. That way there is no big 12 tampering and hurting our lawsuit situation. Have him work around the edges. If they have no interest in the big 12 then we can sit a little and let the other schools contact us and not initiate anything. The ACC has a mess. Inviting means the GORs could be dead and NC and Va could go big ten and others could go SEC; then they are in a sinking ship. The big 12 is not as bad of a position as Scotty D thinks.
 

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Don't think the B12 can proactively contact schools. Schools have to reach out to us and not sure that is going to happen until it is known that Oregon and Washington are leaving.
We have some "friends" tell AZ AZST CO and UT that we want to add teams and we're only taking 2.
 
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IThe B1G's moves thus far have been focused on large TV markets or historic programs. With that in mind, I wonder if the next targets for them may be

Washington : Seattle
Cal or Stanford but not both : Bay area
Arizona or ASU but not both : AZ
Colorado : Denver

This would take them to 20, secure the largest markets in the country and make them a national brand. It also gives USC and UCLA logical travel partners.

I left Oregon out of the equation because of TV sets and they really are not historic if you go back more than 15 years or so. Oregon doesn't seem to do much to move the bottom line up. If they do add Oregeon, then maybe look for look for 1 or 3 more additions: KU, NC, and a powerhouse from the Southeast. Really sucks to type one of those.

The B1G could surround the SEC if it really wanted to.

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FYI. Here in Denver, it is NOT a huge CU market. Denver is definitely pro dominated. Very minimal coverage on CU or CSU.
 
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We have some "friends" tell AZ AZST CO and UT that we want to add teams and we're only taking 2.
I get that but I just don’t see them rushing it. Going from PAC to B12 is not the same as moving to either the B10 or SEC where there may be limited seats. I think they know they can always have a seat in the B12 so why rush it?
 
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If the B1G does not take Washington and Oregon then I would not be surprised if they go to the ACC. Travel is out the window. Stanford, Cal, the mountain schools maybe also (probably not all of them). Whoever is left over would have to go to the Big 12 then if we wanted them. They would make more money in the ACC than in the Big 12 if they joined the ACC
Ya but the B1G money allows for a more generous travel arrangements, ACC money would be pretty much what they have now.
 

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I would imagine every PAC 12 school other than Wazzu and Oregon State gave their notice last night. We'll never know, obviously, but that league is dead.
 

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Iowa barely beats Nebraska every year. As bad as Nebraska is, that's sad. And I find it hilarious. Yes. Nebraska is a coaching staff away from being relevant again. I hate to say that. But yes.
Lol. People have been saying that about Nebraska for at least 10 years.
 

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Ideally, the B1G needs to take two more from the Pac10. Otherwise them smug SOBs might salvage their conference as is instead of looking to the Big12. Also, watching what the ACC does. They've been aggressive in the past (Snagging Big East teams quick, Offering ND what they want, Signing a long-term deal and GORs... they could do something unexpected like try to coax the biggest brands in the Pac10/Big12 to form the first conference of 20 and try to renegotiate their ESPN contract. If the B1G is throwing out Geography, not sure why the ACC wouldn't.
 
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It’s hilarious the Hawkeye boards think this has us in meltdown mode when we pretty much unanimously agree this makes us the #3 conference when we started the day worried about possibility of slipping to #5.

This is the only day of realignment saga since big 12 first formed that HASN’T been all bad news.
This will become much more of an issue when schools are allowed to pay athletes directly. Don't think for a minute that won't happen, it's coming. That will create a massive gulf in talent between the B1G/SEC and everyone else.
 

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Ideally, the B1G needs to take two more from the Pac10. Otherwise them smug SOBs might salvage their conference as is instead of looking to the Big12. Also, watching what the ACC does. They've been aggressive in the past (Snagging Big East teams quick, Offering ND what they want, Signing a long-term deal and GORs... they could do something unexpected like try to coax the biggest brands in the Pac10/Big12 to form the first conference of 20 and try to renegotiate their ESPN contract. If the B1G is throwing out Geography, not sure why the ACC wouldn't.
Because if the ACC does any of that stuff, it opens up the GoR and the big schools go to the Big ten and the SEC. They can't open up or they will lose more than they gain.
 

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If the B1G does not take Washington and Oregon then I would not be surprised if they go to the ACC. Travel is out the window. Stanford, Cal, the mountain schools maybe also (probably not all of them). Whoever is left over would have to go to the Big 12 then if we wanted them. They would make more money in the ACC than in the Big 12 if they joined the ACC
I think the Big 12 would be just as good from a per-team standpoint BUT the ACC would lure them with concessions and extra shares so they could trigger the renegotiation of their bad contract.
 

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This will become much more of an issue when schools are allowed to pay athletes directly. Don't think for a minute that won't happen, it's coming. That will create a massive gulf in talent between the B1G/SEC and everyone else.
And make a breakaway for the top teams to just create their own conference.