Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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I'm fine with the B12 telling Oregon to lose our number as well if this is accurate. They sound like Tea$ junior. I think the parity, equality, and frankly lack of better options in the new B12 is how we find our strength and stability. Bringing in a school that feels they are above us and is looking to ditch us before they even get here undermines all of that.
Let's not confuse Oregon with Phil Knight, sounds like he is going rouge on his own. If he succeeds will UO go along with it, sure but he is also causing the AD some embarrassment too.
 

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That Scheer report (Arizona 247 guy) behind the paywall also has stuff about Knight. He’s basically going off on his own trying to get the B1G or SEC to take Oregon. He’s doing it all on his own and the Pac-12 ADs are not happy with him. Must be hard to have to deal with that when you are trying to see if sticking together can make sense.

Scheer didn’t say this here but I believe he has said in a previous report that Knight is basically dead set on getting in the B1G or SEC and sees the Big 12 as far below Oregon. Not clear what happens when both those leagues tell him to lose their phone numbers though. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Knight tried to get Oregon to go independent and agreed to fund the program through that time because he is so delusional about the B1G eventually taking them.
Well, PK is 84 so we'll see how much longer he is around or at least active. As someone else posted, once he is not pulling Nike strings, will the money spigot get dialed back for U of Oregon?
 

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Well, PK is 84 so we'll see how much longer he is around or at least active. As someone else posted, once he is not pulling Nike strings, will the money spigot get dialed back for U of Oregon?

That has to be on the B1G’s mind.

I could see Knight thinking that securing Oregon a spot in the B1G/SEC is the final piece of his UO athletics legacy.
 

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Phil Knight going rogue has to be hurting any PAC 12 tv negotiations. It will be tough to get a decent TV deal when one of the strongest remaining brands is actively looking elsewhere.
 

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I think the SEC would take Oregon if the B1G declines.

There was an interesting post the other day where I saw that the SEC was supposedly interested in taking UCF... I laughed at first but then if you start to think about it...what would that accomplish...Destabilizing the Big12. Could ESPN poach UCF in an effort to help kill the B12? I know they're not in yet, but that could help destabilize. I would think the better play would be to offer Okie State to the SEC instead. I would think that would have a greater disturbance and a better return? So I don't see much too it, but I wouldn't put anything past ESPN trying to kill the B12.
 

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I'm fine with the B12 telling Oregon to lose our number as well if this is accurate. They sound like Tea$ junior. I think the parity, equality, and frankly lack of better options in the new B12 is how we find our strength and stability. Bringing in a school that feels they are above us and is looking to ditch us before they even get here undermines all of that.

On the other hand, this means that if Oregon has to come to us, it'll be quite well known that they don't have a better option. Texas was able to swing its **** around because it always did. Other schools will be able to treat Oregon accordingly.
 
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I think the SEC would take Oregon if the B1G declines.

There was an interesting post the other day where I saw that the SEC was supposedly interested in taking UCF... I laughed at first but then if you start to think about it...what would that accomplish...Destabilizing the Big12. Could ESPN poach UCF in an effort to help kill the B12? I know they're not in yet, but that could help destabilize. I would think the better play would be to offer Okie State to the SEC instead. I would think that would have a greater disturbance and a better return? So I don't see much too it, but I wouldn't put anything past ESPN trying to kill the B12.

There isn't any single program, or even any pair of programs left in the conference, that would destabilize it if they bolted in my opinion.
 
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Well, PK is 84 so we'll see how much longer he is around or at least active. As someone else posted, once he is not pulling Nike strings, will the money spigot get dialed back for U of Oregon?

Yep. Look at how Oregon's success over the years directly tracks PK's funding of Oregon. Oregon was mediocre to bad most years before PK got involved. If Oregon is maybe borderline right now for the big 10, the big 10 has to look at that and go "but what if that money goes away". They may still have local viewers, but if Oregon isn't consistently in the top 10 anymore they'll drop off as a national brand.
 
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I think the SEC would take Oregon if the B1G declines.

There was an interesting post the other day where I saw that the SEC was supposedly interested in taking UCF... I laughed at first but then if you start to think about it...what would that accomplish...Destabilizing the Big12. Could ESPN poach UCF in an effort to help kill the B12? I know they're not in yet, but that could help destabilize. I would think the better play would be to offer Okie State to the SEC instead. I would think that would have a greater disturbance and a better return? So I don't see much too it, but I wouldn't put anything past ESPN trying to kill the B12.
I think you can relax on the "ESPN needs to kill the B12 and will take UCF to do so". Taking OUT put the SEC well out of the B12's reach. Sure they wanted some of the other schools in the AAC to underpay them, but that was a much lower priority. The SEC is their golden child, they won't do anything to devalue it, which definitely includes adding UCF.
 

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Well, PK is 84 so we'll see how much longer he is around or at least active. As someone else posted, once he is not pulling Nike strings, will the money spigot get dialed back for U of Oregon?
Per internet search Phil & family are worth $40B. He could endow a couple Billion to the Oregon athletic department and Oregon could take a lessor share for the Big10 TV money.

There are 2 aspects of the Big10 realignment push that remain open:

1) Notre Dame
2) What Pac12 schools get added.

I have a tough time believing the Big10 is just going to take USC & UCLA. Just doesn't seem to make sense for the 2 former Pac12 schools. Lack of rivals and long road trips.

My guess is Big10 is waiting on ND so they can determine how deep to dig into the Pac12. If ND comes on board, maybe they go after 4 more schools. If ND doesn't, then maybe they take just 2 more.
 
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I still think Oregon isn't even on deck for the B1G. I would take Stanford, Washington, and then look to raid some of the ACC stalwarts before I look Oregon's way. UO has been a hot program in recent years, but if the football team ever fades, they don't have as many insitutional strengths to fall back on as the other options.

The Big 10 wouldn't want another Nebby.
 
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On the other hand, this means that if Oregon has to come to us, it'll be quite well known that they don't have a better option. Texas was able to swing its **** around because it always did. Other schools will be able to treat Oregon accordingly.

I would take Oregon if they signed the same GOR as everyone else, which I am guessing will end at the same time as the ACC’s in 2036, if not earlier. Too much on the table to have a longer GOR if a B1G or SEC door might open for any of the member schools.
 

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I think you can relax on the "ESPN needs to kill the B12 and will take UCF to do so". Taking OUT put the SEC well out of the B12's reach. Sure they wanted some of the other schools in the AAC to underpay them, but that was a much lower priority. The SEC is their golden child, they won't do anything to devalue it, which definitely includes adding UCF.
And if they did (ESPN) wanted to try to kill the Big XII value they would offer 2 of KU, OkieSt and ISU. Schools with actual value.
 

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Per internet search Phil & family are worth $40B. He could endow a couple Billion to the Oregon athletic department and Oregon could take a lessor share for the Big10 TV money.

There are 2 aspects of the Big10 realignment push that remain open:

1) Notre Dame
2) What Pac12 schools get added.

I have a tough time believing the Big10 is just going to take USC & UCLA. Just doesn't seem to make sense for the 2 former Pac12 schools. Lack of rivals and long road trips.

My guess is Big10 is waiting on ND so they can determine how deep to dig into the Pac12. If ND comes on board, maybe they go after 4 more schools. If ND doesn't, then maybe they take just 2 more.

Maybe the goal was to fatally wound PAC 12. B1G got the crown jewel. B1G has the upper hand over SEC. ESPN knows the ACC is potentially toast. ESPN needs inventory. ESPN desperate. FOX waits.
 

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On the other hand, this means that if Oregon has to come to us, it'll be quite well known that they don't have a better option. Texas was able to swing its **** around because it always did. Other schools will be able to treat Oregon accordingly.
Let them eat some humble pie first. Let's get the 4 corners schools and let Oregon play in the glorified MWC for a couple years as it becomes crystal clear the B1G and SEC aren't coming. Then they can come join us with the same outlook as everyone else, that the new Big 12 is the best home for them going forward, and there isn't something better waiting around the corner. Get in and commit for the long haul.
 
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NBC might be making a play for the Big 12 as compliment to their Notre Dame coverage.
There were other reports that CBS wanted Big12 too, albeit from questionable source.

Makes sense from an NBC perspective, they get what, 7 home games with ND, out of 13-14 weeks of a CFB season? Maybe they want to have 2 games on each Saturday?