Perception is reality with this stuff. US News rankings have been flawed for many reasons for many years, but the simple truth is that it's valued by the decision makers, mostly parents and counselors.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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It could push schools to the Big12, but paying schools their "true" media rights value may be enough to keep the upper tier Pac12 schools happy. Obviously, the schools that lose out are in the bottom half and won't have a lot of options besides G5.
If I were to guess the schools which would win out earning their true market value vs. a Big12 equal payout are: Washington and Oregon. Then Utah and ASU might be +- breakeven. Schools like Colorado, Arizona & Stanford might be below the Big12 payout, but could see value in staying put in the Pac12. Especially if their Big12 interest wanes if Utah & ASU aren't part of the package.
I mean that ranking system had “presidio graduate school” ranked 4th overall. The school has been around for only 20 years and is almost exclusively online for a sustainability graduate degree. That’s 6 spots higher then they have freaking Harvard ranked. If you want to go with that rating system that’s fine but it’s beyond suspect
I know it’s a dog eat dog world but I wonder if these deals aren’t getting done because some people don’t want to leave the bad schools (wsu, ksu, osu) behind
Wazzu and OSU could be getting hitched, but those issues have never been issues to any other school lately, so why now.
But if you were a middling Pac12 (eg Utah, Az, ASU) and your short shares were worth less than an equal share in Big12, why would you stay? On top of that, UW an UO are both "flight risks" who aren't going to sign a GoR even with getting bonus shares -- and if they dump you then you are really in deep feces.
I could see it work, but it screams instability.
The PAC 12 died the day that the Big 12 told Texas they could do The Longhorn Network.
Well to be fair on the Michigan point US News has them about 23rd, and the other about 40th. But there are about 15 colleges listed ahead of Michigan on that list that US News does not even look at on their list.
US news only RANKS 392 "National Universities" But lists 1,870 Colleges and Universities on their site, they only rank the others Regionally or for special rankings, not all together.
College Factual ranks 2,576 Colleges and Universities and ranks them by various user selected qualities, including: Quality, Value, Veterans, Student Athletes, Non-Traditional Students, Diversity, etc.
You can also select best by major with over 300 selectible majors.
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Prime has over 200 million subscribers. Cable, Satellite and Live TV streaming have about 85 million. Apple TV+ comes in at about 25 million.
Again if you look at best overall they have presidio graduate ranked 4th overall. Over half a dozen ivys and other top schools. School has been around 20 years and is mainly online. Their ranking system is mind numbingly flawed. Not saying US news is perfect but when you have presidio ranked 4th overall as well as some other glaring issues that’s a non starterWell to be fair on the Michigan point US News has them about 23rd, and the other about 40th. But there are about 15 colleges listed ahead of Michigan on that list that US News does not even look at on their list.
US news only RANKS 392 "National Universities" But lists 1,870 Colleges and Universities on their site, they only rank the others Regionally or for special rankings, not all together.
College Factual ranks 2,576 Colleges and Universities and ranks them by various user selected qualities, including: Quality, Value, Veterans, Student Athletes, Non-Traditional Students, Diversity, etc.
You can also select best by major with over 300 selectible majors.
Rankings
Find high quality colleges, affordability, diversity and more with College Factual college and university rankings.www.collegefactual.com
Im not saying its perfect either and if You look at presidio you can see why it scored like that, this site is more of a research site for perspective students etc. Presidio broke its algorithm it appears. I dont believe they have limits on certain things which causes some of these tiny schools to score so high.
It is kind of like a Running Back with 1, 99 yard run, having a 99 yard per carry average. sounds great, but he only carried the ball once.
So especially in Presidios case this would be true but also in some of the others as well.
If this is accurate then the corner schools are ours. Why would they take a reduced share in a league anchored by a school looking to bolt, when they can get more money and equal treatment in the Big 12
Again very fair points. I’ll have to do some more digging, to your statement it does feel like a good tool for high school students even if I don’t agree with the rankings.
Again, something is wrong with the Presidio ranking, either it broke the algorithm or it is a glitch in the page etc. When you click on the Presidio link, they have hardly any info on the college, compared to all the others. Makes me wonder if something is either wrong with the info in the page/data that is incorrectly ranking them there, or because of the lack of data and only have 1 field it is throwing them there.
You have to just look at the rest of the ranks and colleges to see something is wrong with that ranking and data to see it shouldnt be there.
Sometimes websites have a mistake. Sometimes its just a glitch in the database that is causing it.
Most people don't pay much attention to their grad school rankings, and even when they do they pay attention to grad school rankings by discipline not "overall"... law, MD, nursing, MBA, etc.
Well I dont agree with US news rankings because when you look at a list of universities but only compare 10% of them.
Then only compare 1/3 of what each of those Universities do.
Then base your ranking on the Opinions of certain people and the amount people donate.
It really is not any kind of real ranking. Its just an opinion piece with not even 1/3 of the facts and 1/10th of the schools.
There are a lot of ways to job the ratings system. Anyone smart enough to be choosing from the top grad schools in the country is going to be smart enough to sniff out stuff like that.
