Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[cyIclSoneU]

Why do people still prefer AZ to ASU?
ASU football historically better, more students and more alumni. PHX>Tucson.

Some reporters including Jason Scheer are saying that Arizona and Colorado are leading the charge to come here. The other schools are hesitant or trying to find a way to stick together.

Even if we only get Arizona and Colorado, sign me up. The Pac-10 can add SDSU and SMU or whatever (I don't care) and try to survive on less money than us. Eventually we'll be there to pick up the pieces of whoever doesn't get into the B1G/SEC and adds value to us.

 

[alarson]

Some reporters including Jason Scheer are saying that Arizona and Colorado are leading the charge to come here. The other schools are hesitant or trying to find a way to stick together.

Even if we only get Arizona and Colorado, sign me up. The Pac-10 can add SDSU and SMU or whatever (I don't care) and try to survive on less money than us. Eventually we'll be there to pick up the pieces of whoever doesn't get into the B1G/SEC and adds value to us.

And arizona seems to have some ties to ASU.

Honestly, just get Colorado back onboard. It probably gets the ball rolling.

 

[2speedy1]

Why do people still prefer AZ to ASU?
ASU football historically better, more students and more alumni. PHX>Tucson.

I think they both are really about the same as far as value. Each has unique things that make them more desirable, both in my eyes and/or in realignment, but both have things that are negatives.

I don't think either are slam dunks to say either, but are better than Oregon St or Boise St. So there is that, and I am not sure either is valuable enough on its own, but with a group of at least 2-4 and the prospect of eliminating or devaluing the Pac to the point of being a non factor in media, they will add value and stability.

 

[Scruff]

There’s no way in my opinion the B12 is adding SDSU.


If Yormark has convinced the PAC12 B12 is a threat to go after SDSU forcing them to add them/spit the pie then he’s the right Comish for us. 3D chess.

SD St is better than half the PAC12 and on par with the 4 teams, we added last year. If Yormak told Arizona & Colorado he's taking the first to commit plus SD St, it would be a brilliant way to tell the PAC to pound sand. I might be a bit vengeful though.

 

[Scruff]

[MEDIA]

Arizona St reporter also going on a rampage about that ASU AD interview with the athletic! Big12 clearly has the Social Media narrative despite Stewie's best attempts to derail it. Click and read his entire thread!

 

[CoKane]

Awfully silent after the few tweets this morning. Lol

Feel like thats a good thing

 

[alarson]

[MEDIA]

Arizona St reporter also going on a rampage about that ASU AD interview with the athletic! Big12 clearly has the Social Media narrative despite Stewie's best attempts to derail it. Click and read his entire thread!

Yeah, i get that they didn't get a heads up or anything, but it being 'shocking' is a bit much too.

People were talking about whether USC\UCLA would jump conferences in a bunch of places online over the last couple years. Whether they had sources backing it or not, it was a least viewed as reasonable enough that people were discussing it, so ADs should have recognized it as a possibility too.

 

[Buster28]

I don't know if this was posted when it was on Twitter four days ago, but interesting info on PAC12 football programs and the number of eyeballs that watch. Give it a click to unfurl the whole chart.

 

[CascadeClone]

"They lowballed us on the merger we so graciously offered them! Dont they know who we are? We're so much better than those lowbrow hicks! Gonna take our ball and go find a higher class of partners! Marsha marsha marsha!"

Good luck with Rice and Claremont you doorknobs.

 

[12191987]

This is funny. Who are they going to get? I don't think CIT, UCSB, UCSD, The Colorado School of Mines, or the Anteaters are ready to step up to P5 football.

Sure, but how is that remotely relevant?

The UC Davis Aggies currently play at the FCS level. Obviously they’re also not ready to step up to P5 football. However, led by *that* Dan Hawkins they’re definitely more than ready for PAC-12 football!

Now, the other UC schools will probably take a year or two to bootstrap new football programs, but there is no reason to believe they wouldn’t be competitive by year 2 or 3.

Take the existing 10 teams and add:

UC Davies Aggies
UC Santa Barbara Gauchos
UC Irvine Anteaters
UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs
UC Merced Golden Bobcats
UC Riverside Highlanders
UC San Diego Tritons

Anybody who doesn’t instantly recognize this to be the most compelling option for the PAC-12 clearly doesn’t grasp just how screwed they are moving forward.

 

[WhoISthis]

The Pac 10 going unequal revenue sharing and adding G5's we rejected is second best to killing them off this offseason.

They'll be back, next time even more of a disaster, and we would have to overpay to get the couple schools of value.

It shows how awful the PAC leadership has been, and still is. This is how they ended up bankrolling Larry Scott's penthouse of waste in SF while the conference decayed for a decade. Now that USC is gone to keep everyone at least trying to keep the fools in line, it is going to be a death spiral

 

[jdoggivjc]

SD St is better than half the PAC12 and on par with the 4 teams, we added last year. If Yormak told Arizona & Colorado he's taking the first to commit plus SD St, it would be a brilliant way to tell the PAC to pound sand. I might be a bit vengeful though.

To quote what's her face from whatever movie it's from... "Stop trying to make 'SDSU to the Big 12' happen. It's not gonna happen."

 

[RustShack]

The Pac 10 going unequal revenue sharing and adding G5's we rejected is second best to killing them off this offseason.

They'll be back, next time even more of a disaster, and we would have to overpay to get the couple schools of value.

It shows how awful the PAC leadership has been, and still is. This is how they ended up bankrolling Larry Scott's penthouse of waste in SF while the conference decayed for a decade. Now that USC is gone to keep everyone at least trying to keep the fools in line, it is going to be a death spiral

Yeah but they are scholars. They saw the history books that the Big12 did it and ended up being better than them. What they won’t see from the history is that’s going to cause schools to leave for the Big12, because they just know teams leave the Big12.

 

[WhoISthis]

Yeah but they are scholars. They saw the history books that the Big12 did it and ended up being better than them. What they won’t see from the history is that’s going to cause schools to leave for the Big12, because they just know teams leave the Big12.

I don't think we need or want both AZ schools, maybe not both Utah schools. It will be interesting to see which Pac schools end up getting left out because of this.

 

[scyclonekid]

If it’s only Arizona and Colorado take em, bye bye PAC. You snobes made less money than us EVEN with USC/UCLA. Get a fning clue.

 

[qwerty]

I don't know if it's necessarily a preference -- from the quote it seems like the asu ad is delusional

(also it's not like asu is known for academics)

Well, these ASU students play doctor . . . . and probably stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Maybe they play doctor at the Holiday Inn Express . . . . .

 

[FriscoCy]

To quote what's her face from whatever movie it's from... "Stop trying to make 'SDSU to the Big 12' happen. It's not gonna happen."

And you know this how and we should just believe you?

SDSU may be a better add than CO and AZ. There is something to be said about SoCal market and decent fan base and new football stadium.

 

[CyCrazy]

And you know this how and we should just believe you?

SDSU may be a better add than CO and AZ. There is something to be said about SoCal market and decent fan base and new football stadium.

No

 

[KnappShack]

Well I'll be darned. Sorry if posted

 

[WhoISthis]

And you know this how and we should just believe you?

SDSU may be a better add than CO and AZ. There is something to be said about SoCal market and decent fan base and new football stadium.

Let them add Boise too. Doesn't matter. These MWC schools were going to combine with PAC leftovers one way or another. Letting Utah, ASU, and Co be on unequal revenue while taking some losses to G5's rejected by the Big 12 will only help. The PAC was weak before, fighting to stay ahead of American and Mountain West, now they don't have USC/UCLA and added G5 that we didn't want.

Now, is it shortsighted long term? Yes. All leftover benefit from consolidation into a 3rd super conference as soon as possible, but if the PAC wants to fade into a beefed up mountain west, so be it