Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Too much smoke about Oregon makes me think it isn't happening. These things always come out of nowhere
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
Just this once I need Greg Swaim to not be full of s**t.
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Swamville can be ignored ^
Probably not immediately.
Regardless the report is achieving its goal to help destabilize the PAC 10 and making it difficult to get a substantial GOR and in turn media rights during this critical window.
Fully expect us to find out eventually Fox was behind the rumor leaking.
That’s not exactly true, and that would be the side putting out the most smoke.
I think Utah is piece we should be coveting the most. They have a legit program, on the upswing, and would have a huge rivalry in the conference. The rest of the schools I'm meh on.
It’s kinda fun to think about rivalry week.
Farmaggedon
Holy War
Duel in the Desert
Revivalry
Space Race
Colorado/Kansas
Oklahoma State/Texas Tech
West Virginia/Cincinnati
They won’t play all those games on Thanksgiving weekend, but those are solid
Farmaggedon
Holy War
Duel in the Desert
Revivalry
Space Race
Colorado/Kansas
Oklahoma State/Texas Tech
West Virginia/Cincinnati
They won’t play all those games on Thanksgiving weekend, but those are solid
You're probably right.
But Utah and their fans also have an extremely high opinion of themselves, and it feels so good right now for us to be getting rid of the two most uppity members of our conference.
The Big 12 doesn't have an unlimited number of open spaces available. It would be poetic justice if Utah's "we're much too good for the Big 12" attitude resulted in them being left out in the cold.
Let’s say Oregon bolts for B1G and we only add either 4 or 6. Who are the 4 and who are the 6?
Did someone go with UO from Pac? B1G won't be at uneven number. IF NOT.
UW
Utah
ASU
Stanford
Arizona
Colorado
That'll depend on who Oregon's partner is. I don't see Cal or Stanford getting an offer to the Big12, so here's my list in order:
Washington
Utah
Arizona
Colorado
Arizona State
SDSU
Stanford
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Cal
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Oregon State
Washington State
Who is "space race" rivalry? Houston? and... UCF? they are in Orlando which is close to Cape Canaveral??
Houston/UCF. They could wear their space themed uniforms and partner with NASA as a promotional event. James Web Telescope on the side of helmets lol
Correct. As annoying as their fans already appear to be that’s the prize I want from the PAC-12 (assuming Oregon is off the table). They have been a really good program and have been in the mix to push for a playoff spot in the past. The Big 12 needs a school (and we do have a couple with potential in Baylor and Oklahoma State) that can replace OU in the perennial playoff talks.
Better yet, we get a special game day image from James Webb
I think this is all UO leaving no stone unturned in trying to get out of the Pac10. I think B1G is just being kind, while also knowing this destabilizes Pac10 more without it looking like they are the bad guys. Although maybe they don't care, their Alliance sure didn't slow them down going Cassius with USCLA.
First, I don't think UO goes alone in any scenario - UW or Stanford goes with.
Second, UW and Stanford are both better choices for the B1G than UO. Their advantages in TV markets and academics over UO are more valuable to B1G than UO's current athletic (football) advantage.
Third, it's more likely B1G takes FOUR (ie UW, Stanford, Cal, UO) than just UO.
Last, Colorado might even make more sense for B1G than UO. I don't have a strong opinion about that, but I do think its a non-zero chance.
As far as the Big12's priorities...
I think the best fits are the Mountain 4, period. UW and UO are always going to want to be in the B1G, and until the B1G says "no nay never" they will wait. OSU and WSU are too dilutive. Cal and Stanford likely would rather go Div3 or independent before joining B12. I'd stick with the 4 and leave room for ACC teams whenever it gets poached.
It feels to me like AZ and Colorado are going to petition the B12, which will let the B1G be the "good guys" and pick up 2-4 Pac12 schools. Then ASU and UU go Big12 too. Leaves both Big12 and B1G with 4 more spots for ACC teams in future to go to 20 and 24 respectively.
Good point. Whether true or not, speculation is making it seem seem more like Stanford has a more legitimate shot of getting into the B1G than many originally thought. I never really thought Washington would be in play, and if we can pick them up it changes the whole 4 corners dynamic. In a scenario where Washington is available they would be a must add, as would Utah.
Things would kind of get weird with the last few spots, which is where I was going with the question. Would we want the Arizona schools as a package, or take only one along with Colorado. At the same time, if we were already on board with both Arizona schools and Colorado, why not just take 6th and add one more school in as well. The hypothetical 6th would be fun - especially with all the different routs the conference could go. We could always elevate a non P5 school like SDSU or Memphis, or just add one of the other remaining PAC schools.
Now that I've thought about it, I guess there's also a third possibility to remain with an odd number and wait out the eventual ACC implosion, which could open a door to adding only like 3 teams. This will be a fun/stressful couple of years to watch play out.
No more adding non P5 schools. We have elevated a couple already and don't want the knock to do it anymore.
I’d be curious to have a discussion on the pros/cons of Arizona vs Arizona State.
I don’t know much about them, other than the fact that ASU is one of the largest universities in the country, and is closer to the Phoenix market.
Zona seems to be more open to the Big 12 and a good cultural fit. While football drives the bus on expansion, the prospect of adding another elite basketball school is exciting as a fan.
Anybody have thoughts on this, and why we all seem to value Arizona over ASU? Genuinely curious.
