WAAY less than half. But that would apply not just to SD, but to about 80% of the US population...
Areas around UCLA wouldn't even know what the Pac 12 is/was.
WAAY less than half. But that would apply not just to SD, but to about 80% of the US population...
The big 10 and SEC will break away, have pay for play, a salary cap, and have their own postseason where 40% of the teams get in. There won't even be any "playoff spot" as you suggest.Meh, I disagree will the next level down (where ISU appears to be headed) have the money of the big 2 no but it'll still be good FB get a invite to the playoffs etc...
If it all gets to carried away I'll just quite following any of it other than ISU. Right know I'm posting in this thread but really don't care who the B12 adds next nor who goes to the B1G or the SEC it's all above my paygrade.
The big 10 and SEC will break away, have pay for play, a salary cap, and have their own postseason where 40% of the teams get in. There won't even be any "playoff spot" as you suggest.
It is that they continue to use teams like "Iowa State" as being at the little kids table. The don't bother to actually look at how Iowa State is almost a mirror of Utah. Population of the state, research dollars, attendance, number of students, etc. they brag about their research level which is like ours, but we get ours without a medical school.Correct. As annoying as their fans already appear to be that’s the prize I want from the PAC-12 (assuming Oregon is off the table). They have been a really good program and have been in the mix to push for a playoff spot in the past. The Big 12 needs a school (and we do have a couple with potential in Baylor and Oklahoma State) that can replace OU in the perennial playoff talks.
The big 10 and SEC will break away, have pay for play, a salary cap, and have their own postseason where 40% of the teams get in. There won't even be any "playoff spot" as you suggest.
Arizona State is where you used to have to go if you wanted a good adult film career. Now not so much I think.From my uh.... research.ASU seems to have hotter FB fan picks on the internet. Arizona is the better BB school.
If Utah fans came to CycloneFanatic, what do you think their perception of ISU fans?It is that they continue to use teams like "Iowa State" as being at the little kids table. The don't bother to actually look at how Iowa State is almost a mirror of Utah. Population of the state, research dollars, attendance, number of students, etc. they brag about their research level which is like ours, but we get ours without a medical school.
I wish I wasn't addicted to looking at their site to get better links to what others are saying than we get here.
First of all the $245M number is a low-ball offer.10 teams in the PAC estimated at 30MM average. Rumor of 245MM offer which would be less. How does the big ten hold their 75MM TV rights they say by taking 4 more teams. That means the other 6 have a negative 55 MM value combined.
The big 10 and SEC will break away, have pay for play, a salary cap, and have their own postseason where 40% of the teams get in. There won't even be any "playoff spot" as you suggest.
Is it a lowball if it’s been the only offer?First of all the $245M number is a low-ball offer.
Next the Big10 revenue model is different with BTN carriage rights. Maybe that changes in 2030, but for now schools in large media markets print money for Big10 tier 3 rights.
Plus I think the Pac12 valuation is artificially low because they play all conference games in MT or PT zone games. If they gain some ET and CT games, that bumps their media value up.
Lastly, there will be a novelty effect for the 7 year agreement of having Pac12 schools playing Big10. CFB fans will watch Iowa or Wisky vs Oregon or UCLA.
Going back to 2013 is irrelevant data and pointless.Individual school ratings article is up on the Baylor site.
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Obviously any offer to the Pac12 is worth no more than the paper it is printed on until the Pac12 knows who's staying.Is it a lowball if it’s been the only offer?
Probably since they were poaching two teams.Obviously any offer to the Pac12 is worth no more than the paper it is printed on until the Pac12 knows who's staying.
If I were Fox, ESPN, Apple or Amazon how can a serious offer be made as long as no Pac12 GOR exists.
Also, no sure it's a big deal that Pac12 doesn't have a firm offer in the summer of 2022. The Big10 didn't announce their deal until this summer and their media rights deal expires a year before Pac12.
In the end, a Big12/Pac12 combination is going to bring the most money to the table for Pac12 schools barring an invite to the Big10 or SEC.
I tend to agree, but not sure it would change the valuation significantly for respective schools.Going back to 2013 is irrelevant data and pointless.
Even before the USC/UCLA moves happened, the Big10 initially was prepping for a Memorial Day timeframe to announce.Probably since they were poaching two teams.
First of all the $245M number is a low-ball offer.
Next the Big10 revenue model is different with BTN carriage rights. Maybe that changes in 2030, but for now schools in large media markets print money for Big10 tier 3 rights.
Plus I think the Pac12 valuation is artificially low because they play all conference games in MT or PT zone games. If they gain some ET and CT games, that bumps their media value up.
Lastly, there will be a novelty effect for the 7 year agreement of having Pac12 schools playing Big10. CFB fans will watch Iowa or Wisky vs Oregon or UCLA.
Is it a lowball if it’s been the only offer?
It is amazing the complete lack of basic education, this country has. We no longer teach the basics. Things like geography are not even required anymore. It is sad how many people dont know basic history and geography.Son was frequently asked at college if Iowa was east or west of Chicago.
My favorite thing in grade school was having to learn every state, where each is located and the capital of each. It's shocking how many can't do this/were never taught it.It is amazing the complete lack of basic education, this country has. We no longer teach the basics. Things like geography are not even required anymore. It is sad how many people dont know basic history and geography.
In my travels around it amazes me how little basic knowledge and common sense people today have. I have had people mistake where Iowa is and confused it with other states dozens of times in my life. With not a huge amount of travel.
It is really sad.
Thankfully I have kids that choose to learn, and seek out knowledge.