Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Could a couple people be doing some thought experiments on it? Sure. Is it actually happening? No it’s not. The top two conferences are very happy with they way things are. No need to blow it up. Also university presidents don’t want to deal with any title9 fall out or the complication from moving away from the existing model. Finally what you propose would involve all the conferences working together which will also not happen.
So, the actions taken by the BIG and SEC over the last 10 years on realignment have been consistent with the "no need to blow it up" approach? Or ok... NOW finally they are "very happy", and will shut down any further dramatic changes to college football. I find that delusional.

The actual actions taken have indicated a level of greed that is unlikely to stop. Title 9 wouldn't stand a chance.
 

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Adding more teams waters down about any conference.
313-150 + 184-92 + 129-58 + 38:15-21:45 = 10-7

I don't think adding a top-10/15 program waters things down. I don't think SEC adding OuT watered that conference down, and Oregon is as good or better than both.
 
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313-150 + 184-92 + 129-58 + 38:15-21:45 = 10-7

I don't think adding a top-10/15 program waters things down. I don't think SEC adding OuT watered that conference down, and Oregon is as good or better than both.

To me it does in the sense of intensity year to year between teams/programs. Like it's just one more team that gets scheduled quasi randomly even if they're good.

Unless teams only play interdivisional opponents which I think makes it more interesting.
 

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To me it does in the sense of intensity year to year between teams/programs. Like it's just one more team that gets scheduled quasi randomly even if they're good.

Unless teams only play interdivisional opponents which I think makes it more interesting.
313-150 + 184-92 + 129-58 + 38:15-21:45 = 10-7

Makes sense. Will be interesting to see how they divide up conference play. All indications are no more divisions so at least the most deserving teams will play for the conference title.
 
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313-150 + 184-92 + 129-58 + 38:15-21:45 = 10-7

I don't think adding a top-10/15 program waters things down. I don't think SEC adding OuT watered that conference down, and Oregon is as good or better than both.
You cant really be serious to think that adding OUT watered down the SEC...
 

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313-150 + 184-92 + 129-58 + 38:15-21:45 = 10-7

Makes sense. Will be interesting to see how they divide up conference play. All indications are no more divisions so at least the most deserving teams will play for the conference title.

And that will suck for Iowa.
 

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Is there a reason as to why other conferences won't have to vote on this anymore? They just gave everyone else a seat at the table.
The Big10 & SEC gave the G5 and other P5 a seat at the table as long as it fits their interests.

Do you think a 16 or 20 team Big 10 is going to be willing to take the same $ as a Pac10 or Big12? Especially when the Big10 & SEC expect to have 7-8 of the playoff teams most years.

They let is slide because today each P5 conference receives around $75M. With a 12 team playoff each conference could receive $300M+ with equal splits.

If there is any given with realignment- it's greed.
 

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The Big10 & SEC gave the G5 and other P5 a seat at the table as long as it fits their interests.

Do you think a 16 or 20 team Big 10 is going to be willing to take the same $ as a Pac10 or Big12? Especially when the Big10 & SEC expect to have 7-8 of the playoff teams most years.

They let is slide because today each P5 conference receives around $75M. With a 12 team playoff each conference could receive $300M+ with equal splits.

If there is any given with realignment- it's greed.
I was under the assumption that the payouts would be per team selected. I think that would be satisfactory to all parties.
 
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I was under the assumption that the payouts would be per team selected. I think that would be satisfactory to all parties.
That would be a big departure from the current payout method where each P5 gets an equal share and all G5 split a little more than each P5 conference. Currently, the 4 playoff teams each receive around $5M.

My understanding is the 10 commissioners and ND AD are meeting in Dallas at the end of next week to discuss specifics.
 
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The Big10 & SEC gave the G5 and other P5 a seat at the table as long as it fits their interests.

Do you think a 16 or 20 team Big 10 is going to be willing to take the same $ as a Pac10 or Big12? Especially when the Big10 & SEC expect to have 7-8 of the playoff teams most years.

They let is slide because today each P5 conference receives around $75M. With a 12 team playoff each conference could receive $300M+ with equal splits.

If there is any given with realignment- it's greed.
Not exactly what Im saying. Meant more on the lines of those conferences can vote on stuff now I believe. Dont think they can remove that now
 

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Not exactly what Im saying. Meant more on the lines of those conferences can vote on stuff now I believe. Dont think they can remove that now
The G5 have had a vote as long as there has been a 4 team playoff.

Currently the 60 G5 programs split around $90M. I am skeptical that the P5 + ND will agree to bump that up to around $300M (using same payout %).

Like it or not if the Big10 & SEC feel their teams will make up 7-8 teams in a 12 team playoff, they will want more than an equal split.

It's a nuclear solution, but the $ are significant enough that from a negotiating stance, those two conferences could threaten to breakaway and create their own 8 team playoff. I bet ESPN & Fox would bid on it.
 

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The G5 have had a vote as long as there has been a 4 team playoff.

Currently the 60 G5 programs split around $90M. I am skeptical that the P5 + ND will agree to bump that up to around $300M (using same payout %).

Like it or not if the Big10 & SEC feel their teams will make up 7-8 teams in a 12 team playoff, they will want more than an equal split.

It's a nuclear solution, but the $ are significant enough that from a negotiating stance, those two conferences could threaten to breakaway and create their own 8 team playoff. I bet ESPN & Fox would bid on it.
Like it or not the B1G and SEC make way more money if the other conferences are involved than if not. If breaking away to get a larger slice of the pie means the pie is cut in half, then they don't do it. They may threaten to do it like the SEC did this off-season, but no one takes it seriously because at the end of the day all of these decisions have been made in the interest of making the most money, which cutting out the other conferences wouldn't do.
 

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Like it or not the B1G and SEC make way more money if the other conferences are involved than if not. If breaking away to get a larger slice of the pie means the pie is cut in half, then they don't do it. They may threaten to do it like the SEC did this off-season, but no one takes it seriously because at the end of the day all of these decisions have been made in the interest of making the most money, which cutting out the other conferences wouldn't do.
But they could make even more money if they push for an uneven split.

I would also bet that ESPN & Fox would not penalize their "pet" conferences if they split off. Heck, ESPN & Fox could actually save a ton of money on an 8 team, 7 game playoff where just 32-40 Big10&SEC teams get paid.

The other dynamic is the SEC & Big10 will have at least 16 teams. The Pac could have 10. Do you think Auburn or Iowa is going to be excited to make 60% of what Colorado makes from the CFB Playoff?

We'll see how it plays out next Thursday in Dallas when they all meet in person.
 

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That would be a big departure from the current payout method where each P5 gets an equal share and all G5 split a little more than each P5 conference. Currently, the 4 playoff teams each receive around $5M.

My understanding is the 10 commissioners and ND AD are meeting in Dallas at the end of next week to discuss specifics.
My feeling is the 6 conferences with auto bids will each get a "share" ie 1/12th each of the pay, then each team from there on out will get an additional share. So if a conference gets 1 autobid and an at large bid they would get 2 shares. If a conference gets just the auto bid they get 1 share. 2 at large with the autobid 3 shares.

They could make the initial autobid shares a larger piece of the pie, then the bonus for getting an at large or second team less. Thus someone like ND would not be able to get an entire conference share, but a bonus team amount, or make special agreements for them. etc.

They also could just split the pie evenly between the P5/G5 like the current deal, but I doubt that. The ability to have multiple teams is going to make those conferences want to be able to get bonus money for having more teams. I think it will be split between those in the playoff, with those having multiples getting more how much more is the question.
 
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My feeling is the 6 conferences with auto bids will each get a "share" ie 1/12th each of the pay, then each team from there on out will get an additional share. So if a conference gets 1 autobid and an at large bid they would get 2 shares. If a conference gets just the auto bid they get 1 share. 2 at large with the autobid 3 shares.

They could make the initial autobid shares a larger piece of the pie, then the bonus for getting an at large or second team less. Thus someone like ND would not be able to get an entire conference share, but a bonus team amount, or make special agreements for them. etc.

They also could just split the pie evenly between the P5/G5 like the current deal, but I doubt that. The ability to have multiple teams is going to make those conferences want to be able to get bonus money for having more teams. I think it will be split between those in the playoff, with those having multiples getting more how much more is the question.
Yea, conferences that get more teams in playoff are going to want more money.

Could see a hybrid where a certain % of total is split evenly like today. And then another split is awarded to each conference based on # of playoff teams.

I also think we could see a criteria where the 6 highest rated conference champs have to be ranked in top 12-15. Look at this year, among G5 Cincy is rated around #20 and James Madison is #25. I could see pushback in having Cincy a playoff team if there was a 12 team.
 
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