Royce White's strength

[VeloClone]

This seems good, but the strongest player that I can remember was Curtis Stinson. I thought he could rep 225 about 10 times. I remember hearing that he was stronger than Homan. A primary reason why he was the best rebounding guard that I can remember.

Stinson was a rebounding monster who averaged 5.6 r/g for his three year career. I would take our current coach in his day over Stinson, however. He averaged 5.9 r/g over his career including two great years of 6.7 r/g and 6.3 r/g.

I had forgotten that in Freddy's junior year when he was in the top 10 in seven Big 8 major statistical categories*, he still wasn't selected to the All Conference first team.:realmad:

*(free-throw pct., 2nd-86.4; 3-point pct., 3rd-45.0; field goal pct., 5th-53.5; scoring, 6th-20.2; steals, 8th-1.7; assists, 10th-3.6; rebounding, 10th-6.7)

 

[AustinCyclone]

I'm calling BS, 6'3" guys with 6'5" wingspans that are 185 can't bench 185-30 times. They can do lots of other things, but benching their body weight 30 times at once isn't one of them.

Couple of caveats my friend:
- worked out with the ISU strength coaches almost every day for 6 years
- manage a weight room for a living

 

[Cyclone1985]

That is a good point. I 'try' to play bball a couple days a week as a cardio supplement to my workouts and my shot is always messed up b/c my muscles are tight and I have limited flexibility.

Its hard to keep great flexibility while gaining strength, which is why the typical bball player is skinny -- im sure you know this running a weight room. The main reason they lift is for a slight increase in strength, but mainly to maintain their muscle. With all the running they do and lack of fat on the body, they lose muscle very quickly.

 

[BooneCy]

I can bench 285 35 times, and I am 7 foot with a 5 foot wingspan. All of these guys on the team are a bunch of wimps.

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[DurangoCy]

Couple of caveats my friend:
- worked out with the ISU strength coaches almost every day for 6 years
- manage a weight room for a living

I would've believed 20, but I'm still calling BS on 30.

 

[Cyznutz]

Until 185 bench press = dominance on the court, who really cares!

 

[gostate2121]

wowwowowowowowo. how do you think melvin ejim will do this year? newcomer of the year for big 12?

 

[Tre4ISU]

I'm calling BS, 6'3" guys with 6'5" wingspans that are 185 can't bench 185-30 times. They can do lots of other things, but benching their body weight 30 times at once isn't one of them.

Who are you to tell people what they can or can't do? That's ridiculous and one of my biggest pet peeves. If they are lieing, whatever, it's their problem to deal with but sitting on a message board telling people what they can or can't do is stupid.

 

[Tre4ISU]

You must pay a toll trolls.

 

[josh777]

I'm calling BS, 6'3" guys with 6'5" wingspans that are 185 can't bench 185-30 times. They can do lots of other things, but benching their body weight 30 times at once isn't one of them.

It's difficult to tell who is being serious or sarcastic in this thread. Why could he not bench 185 30xs at his height? There are hundreds of examples of guys (e.g. fball players, other athletes) that can do this spread throughout the country from hs to pros. I'm 6'4" and could have easily done this when in college while playing ball (now, not so much).

To the poster who stated that at 22 it would be less expected to be strong than when older...that's an uninformed response as well. It is much easier, and common, for a kid under the guidance of a top-level college S & C program to be stong than a guy in his 30s lifting on his own. Energy is higher as well as testosterone levels at 22.

Bottom line, this means nothing more than White has exhibited that he has some strength which will help him underneath. I would be more impressed (and it is more important for jumping and explosion) if he squatted 500 lbs. or some number along these lines.

 

[Cydkar]

I take this to mean he's very strong, regardless of the technicalities. Strength and toughness was something that was COMPLETELY absent during the McD tenure. Those traits defined our past two tourney qualifiers, Wayne's 2004-2005 team and LE's teams (10 years ago!!). It would be great to see us rip away a loose ball, rebound in traffic or finish at the rim.

Great point. We were a high school program strength wise.

 

[Cydkar]

Oh definitely, but once a guy develops a good shooting stroke, lifting too much can really throw their shot out of whack.

We went over this in the LE years.

 

[Kyle]

That does strike me as very low for a D-1 athletic program. It is seemingly in line with other programs though. However, it appears that my small-town high school football team could have destroyed our basketball team. I was doing 3 sets of 10 reps at 185 in high school, and I was by no means huge (I do have short arms though).

 

[TitanClone]

At first this number seems really low to me, there were 3 kids in my class last year that could do 225 15+ times. I bet at least 10 who could do 185 15 times.

But bench isn't really a good measure of strength for a basketball player, IMO. Lengthy arms makes it alot harder.

 

[DurangoCy]

Who are you to tell people what they can or can't do? That's ridiculous and one of my biggest pet peeves. If they are lieing, whatever, it's their problem to deal with but sitting on a message board telling people what they can or can't do is stupid.

My biggest pet peeve is someone getting on the board and saying how awesome they are when compared to our college basketball players, who are busting their butts to get better.

 

[cyclonedave25]

Bench press is a decent indicator of upper body strength, but its just one of those lifts that aren't really important. I'd rather like to see who can squat or power clean the most, or better yet, who made the most consecutive 3 pointers with a hand in their face.

 

[CycloneErik]

How old are you?
How tall are you?
What is your wingspan?

One question you didn't add:

Are you creating your own unverified Internet legend?

 

[CycloneNorth]

Bench press is a decent indicator of upper body strength, but its just one of those lifts that aren't really important. I'd rather like to see who can squat or power clean the most, or better yet, who made the most consecutive 3 pointers with a hand in their face.

I agree 100% with this. There is not enough shoving in basketball to make benching important.

 

[BigLame]

The whole lifting/getting too strong is a fallacy from yester-year. Sure, if the S&C program has the players lift so they look like Lee Haney & have no flexibility, then yes, it will adversely affect shooting.

But more current training methods (of the past 15 or so years) involve explosiveness & flexibility as well, and gaining strength makes for better shooters. If it takes you less effort to get the ball to the rim from 25 feet, training will take care of the body's memory & how much force is necessary to make deep shots. It can really shorten up & quicken a shooting stroke, or it can give you more legs to hit shots late in the game. Muscle-memory stuff.

Now, it you have an intense workout session, then shoot immediately afterward, yeah, there will be some problems at first. But the more you do this, even lifting hard will not affect your shooting (after your first few warm ups).

Nice to see White is fairly strong, but he is fairly big (250+ pounds) to begin with.

What would be nice is to have a bunch of Curtis Bostic's out there. Dude was one strong b-ball player.

 

[Clonefan32]

"Hell, man, my grandmother's quicker and tougher than you pansies! Course she's 6-3, 250, runs a 4.5 40."