Salaries Released

theshadow

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Also, the 275k and 235k are just the base numbers. That's what they get if the team is **** terrible.

Big 12 tournament title: $21k / $18k
Big 12 regular-season title or NCAA at-large pick: $10k / $9k
Sweet 16, Elite 8, Final Four, championship: $5300 / $4500 per round

So win it all in KC and make the Sweet 16, and that $275k jumps to just over $300k.
 

drednot57

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Yep, going from 218k in Seattle to 275k in Ames, IA is more like a 100k raise when factoring in cost of living.

I have no problem with these salaries, but agree that if recruiting goes well this first year they will all need raises next year if we want them to stick around.

JP is saving some big money from Hoiberg and his staff to Prohm and his staff. And it better not all be going into the men's cross country program. He's going to need it to make a splash football hire when he possibly has to let Rhoads go.

FB season's not even started, and you're already firing CPR. I know almost everyone on this tie has lost faith, but let us give him an opportunity to regain that faith. Anyway, I fify.
 

Thomasrickj

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Otz was making $218k at Washington, I think he'll survive with 275.

This is about $150k more than we spent on assistants last year.

Otz will be fine. It's MUCH cheaper living in Ames, IA than Seattle, WA, and on an additional 57k. I would be happy with a better job and an additional 57k.
 

Thomasrickj

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FB season's not even started, and you're already firing CPR. I know almost everyone on this tie has lost faith, but let us give him an opportunity to regain that faith. Anyway, I fify.

Seriously? He's been given a ton of opportunities and just makes the team worse each year. Rhoads should've been gone after the bowl loss to Tulsa. If you are one of those "let us give him an opportunity" people this late in the game, you're way too patient.

Back to basketball, there's nothing wrong with these salaries. I'm sure there was room for raises. If this staff hits a home run this year and gets a lot of good recruits, you can bet our assistants will get a raise.
 

Wesley

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Im pretty sure thats higher than last time Otz was here though. I think he was 225k or maybe 250k. His next recruiting class should get him a raise and based on year 2 of the Prohm era if its good....then these salaries neeeeeeed to go up. If they bomb next years team....then they are over paid.
Washington has no income taX...
 

Wesley

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Also, the 275k and 235k are just the base numbers. That's what they get if the team is **** terrible. Big 12 tournament title: $21k / $18k Big 12 regular-season title or NCAA at-large pick: $10k / $9k Sweet 16, Elite 8, Final Four, championship: $5300 / $4500 per round So win it all in KC and make the Sweet 16, and that $275k jumps to just over $300k.
So we think BIG12 tournament is worth twice as much as the regular season title per the $$$$s?
 

Gossamer

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Not really looking to argue with you directly, but I'm one of those people tired of seeing our coaches leave for other places. Put our money where our mouths is. We all want to win supposedly, but no one is willing to open their check books. Farmers got money, you aren't fooling me!

last I checked, these guys agreed to these terms. Must have been ok with them???

As for them leaving, if they have 1-year contracts like most do, they can renegotiate once they've done a job consistent with a higher paying assistant.

Not sure I see what the gripe is here and not sure I understand the assumptions that people will leave. I mean, Fred was making pretty good money and...
 

RolandRocket

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Exactly but they better prove themselves for 2016-17...if they do then lets give them enough reason to stay. TJ making 275k in iowa as opposed to 218k with the cost of living out there is more than a 57k raise its more like 75-80k with cost of living. He should be more than happy.

According to this cost of living calculator, $275K in Ames is equal to $371k in Seattle. http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-living-calculator.aspx

So in a couple months he has gone from $218k to $371k in "seattle" dollars. I would say his move back to Ames has been darn successful from a financial standpoint.
 

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boone7247

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Below is a link to the the tax foundations website that tells you how far a $100 goes in each state. Using this we can figure out the purchasing power of TJ's salary. In WA paying $100 gets you $96.90 worth of goods. 218,000/100 = 2,180. 2,180*96.9 = $211,242. In Iowa spending $100 gets you $111.73 worth of stuff. So that same $218,000 would turn into 2,180*111.73 = $243,571.40 worth of purchasing power. Now we know he got a $57,000 raise so 570*111.73 = $63,686.10. So moving from Washington results in TJ going from having an effective salary of $211,242 to now having an effective salary of $307,439.50 or a effective raise of $93,197.50 or a 45.53% raise. Also remember that WA doesn't have an income tax, but Seattle does have a 9.5% sales tax and their real estate taxes are considerably higher than Iowas. All states have to raise revenue, just because they don't have an income tax doesn't mean you aren't paying the tax bill in some other way. To demonstrate that Washington budge per capita is approx $2,705 per resident and Iowa's is $2,317 per resident.

So I don't think we can argue that TJ is being slighted in his move. Please also remember there are bonuses to earn, as well as this is a new coaching staff, I am sure these are all substantial raises from their previous positions, And as we saw with Fred, if the results warrant it, JP will be willing to open up the checkbook.

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/real-value-100-each-state
 

CloniesForLife

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No, I think most are thinking it is low based on how relatively little we are paying the HC in combination with how big and immediate our needs are. Imo after we hired a guy like Prohm, we needed to pay as much as we could afford (sorry XC and T&F) to make up some ground on the recruiting front. Instead we a guy from Loyola and another Murray Stater.

Berry must be a hell of a special assistant to the head coach to get $120k. Tough to get him to leave his old job and come up north, I suppose. Must have been critical in getting Ernst.

Do you ever have anything positive to say? I mean seriously. So who would you have REALISTICALLY rather seen than the guys that we hired?
 

Stormin

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Otz got a $45,000 raise from what was a signed contract for 2015/16. He is the highest paid assistant on staff. Sounds about right.

I am not one who blindly advocates throwing a lot of money at people and then thinks that merely spending more money will mean better results. That is sheer stupidity.
 

Stormin

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Seriously? He's been given a ton of opportunities and just makes the team worse each year. Rhoads should've been gone after the bowl loss to Tulsa. If you are one of those "let us give him an opportunity" people this late in the game, you're way too patient.

Back to basketball, there's nothing wrong with these salaries. I'm sure there was room for raises. If this staff hits a home run this year and gets a lot of good recruits, you can bet our assistants will get a raise.

Patient........a word used often at Iowa State. CPR is the coach for this coming season. You need to accept that decision. The results of the coming year will determine the future course of Iowa State football.

IMO, the Gene Chizik hire and other failed hires at other schools have factored into the decision to retain CPR for the coming year. Along with the fact, that we had a nearly complete overhaul of the coaching staff just over a year ago. If the coming season is decent, then CPR will be retained. If not, then I would expect that CPR might take the road that McCarney took and "resign". That is the way I see it playing out. So whether you like it or not, CPR will coach the entire 2015 football season. You can be as impatient as you like, but that is reality.
 

CloniesForLife

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Imo we should have expected to spend more on the staff including HC then we did in 13-14. Go until you get a guy like Fuller or Chew.

That would be nice but what if they are happy where they are at and would have only left for an exorbitant amount of money? Maybe we offered and they said no thanks. Maybe Prohm did not think they would be the right fit for what he is trying to do. Hard to say. With the timing of everything I think we put together a very solid staff. I don't think we tried to cheap out by any means. It's not like he hired a bunch of young inexperienced and unproven coaches at bottom dollar.
 

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