Yeah, and in years without Pippen (and even with he and Grant) he didn't always make the finals either.
NBA: Should LeBron James be compared to Michael Jordan?
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Yeah, and in years without Pippen (and even with he and Grant) he didn't always make the finals either.
I never said he did, but he was playing well in all of those years. Not taking quarters off because the other team was making him take jumpers.
Roster now isn't good?
Wade is a finals MVP
Ray Allen is the greatest 3 point shooter in history
Bosh is/was a great PF although I don't like how they use him
Chalmers and Cole are solid PG's that can shoot and defend
Battier is an elite defender who is capable of making 3's
The only thing the Heat are missing is a true big, but that roster is stacked with talent. Just because the talent is playing up to it's potential right now doesn't mean it's not a great roster. You don't win 27 games straight with a bad roster
It's funny how people remember Jordan. It's like he never missed a shot, never lost, and never struggled with his shot.
In 1996 when Jordan won his 4th title this was his stat line. Is that any better than Lebron's last night?
In 1996 when Jordan won his 4th title this was his stat line. Is that any better than Lebron's last night?
5-for-19, 22 points, 9 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 turnovers
So outside a top 50 player and one of the best defenders ever
The best rebounder of all time and a great defender
And a very solid PF who could score and defend
Yeah besides those scrubs his supporting cast was weak.....
Wade has disappeared. Ray Allen hasn't done much of anything. Bosh should still be in his prime but he is making nothing. Chalmers has been a liability for most of this series. Cole has been alright. Battier hasn't even played much. When Mike Miller is you second best performer you are going to be in trouble. On paper that roster should win. In practice that roster has sucked for a lot of the playoffs. We are looking at a shell of a lot of those guys, much like what LeBron had to work with in Cleveland.
Yes it was much much better Clones85. First, and this is the key point, as you noted, the Bulls won that game. Secondly, Lebron played like **** yesterday. Most of the points lebron scored were garbage time. He actually hurt his team yesterday by missing so many shots and not being aggressive. It got to the point where the Spurs were backing off and daring him to shoot.
That's not the point and not what you said. Are those guys struggling? Sure. But you didn't say that. You said, "That said, his roster right now isn't very good."
That's simply not true. It's the best roster in the NBA by a mile. Just because they are struggling and guys aren't playing to their abilities doesn't mean it's not a great roster.
How dare you use facts when talking about jordan. You will probably be banned.
I think we can all agree, jordan was not as good as 99% of people remember him to be(thanks Nike) and LeBron will never be as good as jordan was in peoples memories. He may however surpass him in ever statistical category.
If you want to compare 2 similar players, look at kobe, watch them both, kobe is easily most like jordan. Not saying kobe is better than bronbron just saying more similar (by far) to jordan
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That's the worst scoring night of Jordan's entire Finals career. LeBron had an entire final series where he played like crap by his standards, and last night where he was as bad or worse than this too.
Biggest. Scoring. Decrease. Ever. from regular season to finals series = LeBron two years ago on his most talented team ever
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It's the largest scoring decrease OF ALL TIME from regular season to finals, so you're being completely ridiculous to act as if it's just one bad game and happens all the time to all sorts of scorers. It was an epic choke, a performance Jordan was never remotely near in a finals.
He didn't control the games by scoring less as you suggest, they lost in six giving up two games on their home court as LeBron set this all time record for a scoring decrease. They had home court and they lost in six, that's not controlling the series by scoring much less than he did all season. This is really simple stuff.
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The point isn't whether his roster is performs? Alrighty then. We just judge on the name. They should sign Iverson. Then how good could they be? What if they signed Shaq. Boy Howdy would that be a great team.
Certainly. Kobe has the game of Jordan. LeBron really doesn't. Of course people will bash Kobe and say that he needed help to win. Of those three guys, who still made it to the Finals and had great teams with the least help? MJ and LeBron without question. Then you have to split hairs between who had less help between those two. Now, who has done less with more? LeBron and Kobe, no doubt.
They won 27 straight games. They haven't lost back to back games since....when?
They are in the NBA Finals for the 3rd year in a row. They have the best player in the game and 3 for sure Hall of Famers (maybe 4 but I doubt it)
Tell me again how the Heat roster isn't any good? That's a ridiculously inaccurate statement. Their roster is loaded.
Loaded with names. Haslem, Miller and Anderson have been the guys who have helped win game. Wade has barely been a factor and when he is, it's easy buckets off LeBron. Bosh has had, what, one game where he scored much? Anderson has had that. LeBron can't play poorly and win. He has to play great. Yes, that's on him but he has no room for error. You can judge the roster on their names and how they played previously to the playoffs but they have, in large, sucked in the playoffs. I guess I'm just talking about Bosh, Wade and Allen. Those are the guys that are supposed to be helping and they are not.
So Jordan's team of Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Toni Kukoc, Steve Kerr, and Ron Harper was less talented than Kobe's team of Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, and Trevor Ariza?
